Hello,
If you are going to disagree, at least be inventive enough to use your own words, otherwise my reply can be:
Everything you said, but just the opposite.
And also then i guess you're rubber and i'm glue?
All the hydrogen bombs we have now are insignificant with respect to amount of energy from storms and other natural phenomena that occur constantly. I am talking about really large amounts of weaponized energy, like perhaps a directed and controlled gigantic solar outburst aimed at a country or continent.
The people that put forth the idea that man is partly responsible for climate change ignore thousands of facts that show otherwise. In fact, they try to make it a social issue rather than a scientific one. They would like to have a vote of some kind by those who have a financial interest in climate change to decide on climate change legislation. They should instead be required to prove their assertions and explain all the discrepancies that are present. It is both a social and scientific issue, and a consensus of opinion is not good criteria for judging the truth. Explaining the facts are. Furthermore, the motivation behind each opinion should also be examined.
Ratch
Hi,
I am not that concerned about new weaponry based on free energy being a big deal, because we have weaponry that already threatens the entire civilization on planet Earth.
The people that put forth the idea that man is not partly responsible for climate change ignore thousands of scientists that claim otherwise
Hello,
If you are going to disagree, at least be inventive enough to use your own words, otherwise my reply can be:
Everything you said, but just the opposite.
And also then i guess you're rubber and i'm glue?
I think this is a good point, and it's not just energy that is lethal, but also radioactivity. I full blown nulear war would be devastating to the human race. Perhaps our species would survive, but a long dark age would be the best outcome, and extiction the worst.
It's interesting to look at two examples from science fiction. Even though it's just fiction and these things are not at all likely, it is fun to use our imaginations to see how technology might come up against human nature.
In "The Gods Themselves", by Asimov, people discover free energy can be obtained by tapping into two parallel universes that both have different laws of physics. By using one universe as a "hot side" the other as a "cold side", the conservation of energy can be bypassed. The uninteded consequence is that the laws of physics in our universe begin to be altered, and beyond a certain point, the sun will supernova, if humans continue to tap this energy source.
In "Forbidden Planet", a planet is discovered which had an extinct alien race, that left technological artifacts, still operating even 200,000 years after their demise. The final scenes reveals that that race developed technology to transform matter under thought control, and with a nearly infitite power source. Even though that race was ethically developed to deal with this technology in a constructive, rather than destuctive, way, they forgot about their subconscious brain that orginally evolved millions of years ago. Once the switch was thrown, their subconscous minds evoked demons that destroyed the race in one night.
In "Forbidden Planet", a planet is discovered which had an extinct alien race, that left technological artifacts, still operating even 200,000 years after their demise. The final scenes reveals that that race developed technology to transform matter under thought control, and with a nearly infitite power source. Even though that race was ethically developed to deal with this technology in a constructive, rather than destuctive, way, they forgot about their subconscious brain that orginally evolved millions of years ago. Once the switch was thrown, their subconscous minds evoked demons that destroyed the race in one night.
Well it depends on how you read it. The story indicates that the Krell were eons more advanced than humans in both technology and ethics. The idea of deliberate cause of bodily injury was inconceivable to thier conscious minds. And, their techology probably prevented bodily injury and in the rare cases it occured, cured it almost instantaneously. Although not mentioned in the story, one can assume that the Krell did build in many safeguards. Consider that the machines automatically self-serviced themselves for 200,000 years and kept working after the Krell were extinct.I loved the movie but the fact that the 'thought to matter' machine had little or no safeguards for 'great bodily injury' was something that proved that personal injury lawyers must have been eliminated from the Krell society along with common sense.
But, it's just a story ...
You are assuming the machine that Morbius found, was the same as the one the Krell designed. I always imagined that the Krell war resulted in modifications to the system as part of the battle strategies. Somehow a small flaw allowed bypassing certain safeguards. Removal of some safeguards allowed more access to bypass other safegaurds. The system was then open in the the final stages of the fighting. It seems a natural thing that would happen with the high intelligence of the Krell and the capability the machine provided to alter matter, machines and programming with thought commands.if one lowly human could control it to destroy the original party when they attempted to leave and then use it's power on the rescue crew when his little perfect world was threatened then the destruction of the Krell was a sure thing when they flipped on the switch.
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You are assuming the machine that Morbius found, was the same as the one the Krell designed. I always imagined that the Krell war resulted in modifications to the system as part of the battle strategies. Somehow a small flaw allowed bypassing certain safeguards. Removal of some safeguards allowed more access to bypass other safegaurds. The system was then open in the the final stages of the fighting. It seems a natural thing that would happen with the high intelligence of the Krell and the capability the machine provided to alter matter, machines and programming with thought commands.
The Krell Machine, by contrast, is an infinitely dangerous servant precisely because it has not been preprogrammed with Asimov's Three Laws in mind, and the Krell have evidently made a monumental error on this point.
Obviously I don't agree with the interpretation of the article. Why should we believe that aliens millions of years more advanced than humans are not as smart as Asimov was in the 1950s?
I think a more sophisticated interpretation is required to have the right understanding of the moral of the story. The Krell would have been one millions steps ahead any of our thoughts, and still they failed
I partially mimicked your post to show that the same generalities you put forth can be made by those with the opposite view.
Ratch
I think this is a good point, and it's not just energy that is lethal, but also radioactivity. I full blown nulear war would be devastating to the human race. Perhaps our species would survive, but a long dark age would be the best outcome, and extiction the worst.
It's interesting to look at two examples from science fiction. Even though it's just fiction and these things are not at all likely, it is fun to use our imaginations to see how technology might come up against human nature.
In "The Gods Themselves", by Asimov, people discover free energy can be obtained by tapping into two parallel universes that both have different laws of physics. By using one universe as a "hot side" the other as a "cold side", the conservation of energy can be bypassed. The uninteded consequence is that the laws of physics in our universe begin to be altered, and beyond a certain point, the sun will supernova, if humans continue to tap this energy source.
In "Forbidden Planet", a planet is discovered which had an extinct alien race, that left technological artifacts, still operating even 200,000 years after their demise. The final scenes reveals that that race developed technology to transform matter under thought control, and with a nearly infitite power source. Even though that race was ethically developed to deal with this technology in a constructive, rather than destuctive, way, they forgot about their subconscious brain that orginally evolved millions of years ago. Once the switch was thrown, their subconscous minds evoked demons that destroyed the race in one night.
Hi,
Wow, i havent read that book but that would certainly be a good example of an energy source that does not have to be replenished
I have been hoping for cold fusion, but that turns out to be more difficult than expected. From what i understand there were particle responses that were not predicted by modern physics which made any design unworkable for the time being, but there may have been advances in theory by now. Maybe mankind is just getting deeper into the cooking pot anyway and everything is just at best a temporary solution. Perhaps the death of life is inevitable on a grand scale.
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