Automatic Water Level Controller for "Dr Fluffy Bottoms Quack House"

ThomsCircuit · Nov 10, 2022

Just to be clear your not talking about the relay coil. That is DC. Im a bit confused because you refer to it as an AC coil but the relay is DC and the solenoid on the water valve can not be altered. It is a sealed unit.

ThomsCircuit · Nov 10, 2022

Ive updated the schematic to show the AC voltage and the LED connections

ThomsCircuit · Nov 10, 2022

Here is the valve with the solenoid on top.
Electrical: Standard 24-volt AC 50 or 60 Hz. 0.35 amps inrush current and 0.23 amps holding current.

ThomsCircuit · Nov 10, 2022

Ive looked at many posts and research. The solenoid cannot be opened. I just want to be sure i understand where you want me to place the component to protect the solenoid.

rjenkinsgb · Nov 10, 2022

You can either connect it across the coil, or across the contact:

ThomsCircuit · Nov 10, 2022

rjenkinsgb said:
You can either connect it across the coil, or across the contact:

Thank you RJ. I just waned to be certain.

ThomsCircuit · Nov 10, 2022

DrDoggy2 · Nov 11, 2022

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Diver300 · Nov 11, 2022

DrDoggy2 said:
https://www.amazon.ca/Clucker-Automatic-Filling-Watering-Chickens/dp/B089XZVZMP/ref=asc_df_B089XZVZMP/?tag=googleshopc0c-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=459548773611&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=745007387889989801&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9001085&hvtargid=pla-934509365667&psc=1

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That one relies on the weight of water in the bowl, so it can't be used to fill a larger container.

ChrisP58 · Nov 12, 2022

ThomsCircuit said:
Ive updated the schematic to show the AC voltage and the LED connections
View attachment 139206

You don't need both D4 and D5.

D5 alone would be used to let the negative half of the AC past the LED to prevent the reverse voltage from destroying the LED. But D4 blocks any reverse voltage from getting to the LED, so there's no reverse current for D5 to carry.

Just use D4.

The same is true for D3 and D2.

rjenkinsgb · Nov 12, 2022

I advised that setup.

The shunt diode protects the LED from any possible excess reverse voltage across it, due to the series diode & circuit capacitance and possible leakage. That's the more critical one for LED protection.

The series diode just halves the dissipation in the series resistor.

With "ideal" components only one should be needed, but there is no such thing in real-parts...

ThomsCircuit · Nov 13, 2022

ChrisP58 said:
You don't need both D4 and D5.

D5 alone would be used to let the negative half of the AC past the LED to prevent the reverse voltage from destroying the LED. But D4 blocks any reverse voltage from getting to the LED, so there's no reverse current for D5 to carry.

Just use D4.

The same is true for D3 and D2.

Thank you but I have already sent this out for a 5 board build. It was only $6 but if there are any issues I'll apply your suggestions.

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