Hey thanks for not giving up on me. Really appreciate you taking the time to help me. Downloading designspark right now.Hexreader!! I have vista, fritzing works fine for me... Have you tried designspark from RS? It's also free (3D capability aswell)
I've been using MSpaint for my circuit diagrams since it was called Pbrush.
One reason that i stick with it is because every PC on the planet can display a BMP file.
Straight from the box.
Most of my diagrams are quite small, and when converted to Black and White they dont take
up much more memory than a Jpeg.
I do have some minor problems with the shading when using the latest MSpaint.
For some reason it won't copy and paste, but it seems alright on the older versions.
IMHO, it's the information from a schematic that counts, not so much the form or layout or if the resistors are a box with number in them or uneven squiggle. It's the information conveyed that counts.
Sorry to say it, but get real: Micro$oft Paint is a deficient, fairly brain-damaged tool to be using at this late stage of the game.
Ummm....do you know something we don't? Like when this "game" started...or when it will end?? You seem to be saying that this "game" will be over soon, so dont waste your time with that.carbonzit said:Sorry to say it, but get real: Micro$oft Paint is a deficient, fairly brain-damaged tool to be using at this late stage of the game.
Sounds like a salesman for psp in my ears.With Paint Shop Pro, I can create a compressed 16-color GIF that will be at least 10 times smaller than any JPG (16 million colors). Can you do this with Paint? Maybe, but I've never been able to figure out how. PSP makes it simple.
I don't use MS paint, but rather Inkscape. I'll happily answer for that questions regarding the use of Inkscape.Just for the sake of comparison, with Microsoft Paint, can you
1. Copy and paste images with transparent backgrounds? (very handy for pasting in bits and pieces in a drawing where you don't want to disturb existing elements)
2. Handle background transparency at all?
3. Easily resize/resample a picture (and do it in units of pixels as well as percentage)?
4. Easily convert numbers of colors (up or down)?
5. Edit GIF palettes? (Very useful for getting rid of various dithering artifacts, etc.)
I'm pretty sure the answer is "no" to all of these.
The paint program uses 343 kilobytes, PSP uses 8.5 megabytes.
Yes, BMPs can be compressed, like most files.
3. Easily resize/resample a picture (and do it in units of pixels as well as percentage)?
Yes, it will easily resize, but only a small range of set sizes.
4. Easily convert numbers of colors (up or down)?
yes, full range of colours each from o to 255, and hue, sat, and lum,
but i dont know what hue, sat, and lum are, ive never used them.
Pick numbers or use a slider with a colour display box to choose a colour that looks right,
thats the way i usually do it if i need a colour extra to the ready choice.
That circuit which looked upside down.
It looks like the ground is plus, so its just drawn like that.
It is odd that the battery is in the middle of the circuit,
but it might look odder with the ground at the top,
and the supply rail along the bottom.
In the early days of transistors with PNPs, lots of circuits had the neg along the top.
Dont see that much now though.
hi Mike,**broken link removed** is free and a real easy to learn tool for making schematics. If someone is seeking help, and can't be bothered with making a readable schematic, then why should I bother to try and decrypt a mess of poorly placed pixels?
If there is any interest I might make a ExpressSCH tutorial, like my Eagle tutorial.
Sorry to say it, but get real: Micro$oft Paint is a deficient, fairly brain-damaged tool to be using at this late stage of the game.
Meaning that there are such better programs available that there's no excuse to use this "default" picture editor.
So far as formats native to the PC go, JPG and GIF are also just as universally-recognized as BMP. Moreso, really: most people wouldn't know what to do with a BMP, but all web browsers out there happily display GIF, JPG and PNG graphics.
With Paint Shop Pro, I can create a compressed 16-color GIF that will be at least 10 times smaller than any JPG (16 million colors). Can you do this with Paint? Maybe, but I've never been able to figure out how. PSP makes it simple.
Just for the sake of comparison, with Microsoft Paint, can you
1. Copy and paste images with transparent backgrounds? (very handy for pasting in bits and pieces in a drawing where you don't want to disturb existing elements)
2. Handle background transparency at all?
3. Easily resize/resample a picture (and do it in units of pixels as well as percentage)?
4. Easily convert numbers of colors (up or down)?
5. Edit GIF palettes? (Very useful for getting rid of various dithering artifacts, etc.)
I'm pretty sure the answer is "no" to all of these.
Vin o---R1---+---C1---+---o Vout
| |
R2 L1
| |
GND o--------+--------+---o GND
Personally, I'm not completely agreed. If it's a very simple schematic like the one MrAl made, it's not a big deal. For more complex schematics I would agree that it's improper.hi Al,
I must admit when I see a circuit 'drawn' using ascii art, I just ignore it.
There are many programs that an author can use where he/she can insert decent quality images into text documents.
Eric
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