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If you were a part of "David Koreshs or Jim Jones Group" their would be nothing else to do but, die along side them.
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I don't think you should compare Jones and Koresh. Jones was a nutbar who forced his followers to kill themselves for no reason.
Koresh (and 50+ innocent people) were executed by the extremely immoral actions of the ATF because they suspected he might have illegal firearms. As far as I know the murderers responsible for the Koresh/Waco incident have still never been properly brought to justice.
Hi Guys
Not getting involved in this. Just glad that the thing is over. And all is safe again and MIT will be OK Monday 22/04/2013.
Regards,
tvtech
Nothing to get involved in, I just dis-like anyone who would teach non-sense to a child, to do them harm in anyway. Also, anyone that helps support their ideology's, knowing it's a criminal offense. e.g. The parents and Guardians.
The sad part of these kinds of stories, are the Children. I was raise Mormon and know what it is to be programmed at an early age, children will believe their parents, their fresh innocent little minds are the perfect soil for seeds of mis-direction and slight of hand confusion, constantly re-enforced to believe a single strain of reasoning, which is put forth from "The General Authority in any Orginization"
Sorry RB, I don't see it. I know what your saying but, ...
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David Koresh and his followers could have opened the doors to the compound and let them in to investigate. Instead they chose to resist, further exacerbating the situation.
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He and his followers had not killed anyone,
On February 28, 1993, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms (ATF) raided Mount Carmel Center. The raid resulted in the deaths of four agents and six Branch Davidians. Shortly after the initial raid, Contact was established with Koresh inside the compound. Communication over the next 51 days included telephone exchanges with various FBI negotiators.
Bunds also claims that Koresh would annul all marriages of couples who joined the group, had exclusive sexual access to the women, and would also have regular sexual relations with young girls.
I apologise if my response to Killivolt's comment caused the thread to go off topic.
In no way were my posts intended to dishonour the victims of either attrocity.
More of those animals with the same religion were arrested in Canada yesterday for planning to blow up trains full of innocent people travelling from US to Canada.
The Boston bomber said he killed and maimed many innocent people because of the US war against his "religion" in Iraq and Afghanistan.
His brother prayed at the Mosque 5 times every day!
It's not always the religion that is the problem, even though a lot of people claim it is. I know many Muslims who wouldn't THINK of doing anything like that, and they believe it is AGAINST their religion. There are only some cults that believe they need to "kill all infidels". It is NOT the entire religion. Just keep that in mind--do not try to generalize, as it will cause even more problems.Matt
As it is with many religions, radicalism isn't at the core, there always at the fringe.
Exactly right. It just sounded like AG was trying to sum up all Muslims into the category of radicals, which isn't true.
So are you saying that not all Canadians have flip top heads like the ones on South Park?
The terrorist Muslims in Canada who planned to blow up trains recently were turned in to the police by other good Muslims who thought the bad guys were weird in their mosque.
But it seems that all terrorists are Muslims. Like on Sept 11, 2001 the 17 terrorists were ALL Muslims. Same with Britain and Spain terrorist activities.
When the news talks about Radical or Extremist then I think the terrorists are simply crazy in their brains. Praying in the mosque 5 times each day! Unbelievable.
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