I don't know what calculations he's talking about reload, but the values you listed seem a litte weird. You should be able to get a decent power supply that can do 30amps on the 12V rail(s) for under 200 easy.
You'd have to hunt for a brand name you like but just one example I found on new egg has 4 12 volts rails each able to source 18 amps (that's 72amps, hopefully I didn't miscalculate itfor $110
A good well built switching PSU for 12 volts only capable of 30 amps typically runs over $200 USD so go figure.
Frosty you seem to be under some weird mistaken assumption that the FCC certifies a device to be safe which is absolutely not the case at all, they certify it for it's ability to withstand and not produce interference under common electrical conditions.
You're much like the typical American consumer, assuming that a logo on a device means it's a quality safe product. Keep in mind as well with CE certified stuff, as said previously many Chinese companies will simply slap the logo their products even if they haven't gone through certification.
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It's not about what you think, this is the real world here.I think the consumer has a right to assume if its tested by the FCC it is safe to use.
Anyone that assumes such doesn't know anything about certifications, it's about trust and traceability. If you think that an FCC logo means electrically safe you're delusioned from the start. CE certification means a bit more but that's a European standard. UL certification is a big one in the US, and even if the device carries all of these logo's it does not mean that the device is safe. You can't protect against stupid user and a random circumstances.Everybody who is not an ameture radio operator would assume the device safe to use if it has FCC approval
You're paying for the certification and design considerations reload, the confusion factor was definitely bad because that has NOTHING to do with Chinese made ATX supplies. They don't make certified supplies like you're talking about, it's apples and oranges. The supply you're talking about is certified against dangerous harmonics, 5 safety certifications and 4 EMI certifications! All of which you can statements of certification of it need be.
Unfortunately the only person to blame in this type of situation is the person that bought the item. These is no one to sue because there is no warranty or certification to a particular purpose, even if you could find the maker, there is no lemon law with new products, if they don't claim in black and white signed in blood that it will last more than 30 seconds it doesn't have to. If there is any mentioned warranty on the product I'm sure the customer support will sap the will to live out of any human being, if you can even find a contact number. If you pay a lot for this kind of crap, again it's caveat emptor, assume anything and it makes an ass out of u and me =) Anything to save a buck will get you this type of product, it gets us Americans literally boatloads of it, the reason so many buy it is because so many people don't pay attention to what they buy and assume a purchase will fit a need.
When it's certified from the FCC it is, for radio frequency use and non interference... Have you even read any of these standards?The point is if something is certified by a Federal body consumers generally will assume they mean certified to be safe to use.
S'okay Ron, I'll let my nails rust for the next person, I'll sharpen them to help reduce the initial impact =)
When it's certified from the FCC it is, for radio frequency use and non interference... Have you even read any of these standards?
What you're saying is the equivalent to someone putting a sign on a door that says 'beware of person behind door' as being a justification for murder if someone opens it except in the opposite extreme. The FCC certifies for RF interference and acceptance of interference, that is all. If you want to stick your finger in the power outlet of an FCC certified device and want to sue the FCC because someone was seriously harmed.. you really have some mental readjustments to make.
Why are you always grumpy!???
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UL has developed more than 1,000 Standards for Safety. Our Standards for Safety are essential to helping ensure public safety and confidence, reduce costs, improve quality and market products and services. Millions of products and their components are tested to UL's rigorous safety standards with the result that consumers live in a safer environment than they would have otherwise.
Perhaps the posters here are thinking of the FTC , not the FCC. As for UL there's UL Listed and UL Approved. Approved items are far more worthy of safety than "listed" items. Listed means they are registered and meet basic specs. without ever being subjected to actual UL testing process. A vast majority of items in the USA are now UL Listed instead of Approved. I think the last time I saw a UL Approved items was my Mom's Electrolux vacuum sweeper of 1970 vintage!Maybe people are confusing the FCC with UL (Underwriters Laboratory)
ben and ty. The two of you have no clue what a sense of humour looks like do you? =)
Perhaps the posters here are thinking of the FTC , not the FCC.
You apparently know little of flammable substances and the risks associated with them.ben7 said:smoke = high temp = fire very likely
I mean seriously, thinking this crap is that important is the first sign you're out of your mind.
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