Our main site for energy technology is being swapped from server to another one. Once its back online i will pm the link, that site is public and the blog part is aimed at the general public in places. Its useful to know when people dont fully understand, i will make sure one site caters for those not actually in the industry. Its important as many people as possible understand the technology or it wont get taken up.Wow, that's a lot to take in. I won't say I understand it all by a long shot ... but bits and pieces sound very interesting. I'll have another read in the morning and Google some of the concepts.
I spent a lot of time 20 years ago or so messing in the weird science/lunatic fringe ... but have stayed away since ... this sounds right down my alley ... not suggesting this is lunatic fringe mind you.
erm thx, honestly i am pretty normal i just prefer technical reading and journals to comics.
Plus i grew up around labs a farm, it helps that i love to learn and i enjoy everything i call work.
Our main site for energy technology is being swapped from server to another one. Once its back online i will pm the link, that site is public and the blog part is aimed at the general public in places. Its useful to know when people dont fully understand, i will make sure one site caters for those not actually in the industry. Its important as many people as possible understand the technology or it wont get taken up.
The direct answer to this unlike above, a modified version of what we use at home would serve you well. Also give you a great start point.Haha ... I wasn't suggesting any different. I've enjoyed your contribution to the forum as I check out the various threads. Plus it's fantastic to see someone from the younger generation with some get up and go and obvious flair for their work and interests.
No labs for me growing up ... but we were on a farm and my dad was into motorcycles. It's amazing the skills and interests you can pick up growing up in that environment. I feel sad for kids who grow up with none of that.
That's where I need to start from ... at least until I grasp the bigger picture. I had researched some of your links from other threads ... but with so much theory I was having a hard time trying to relate it to something I could get involved in.
We're on 4 and a half acres and in a house that hopefully we'll be in for the duration ... so I'm keen to do some experimenting with some alternative technology in the way of energy saving and environmentally responsible living.
a modified version of what we use at home would serve you well. Also give you a great start point.
Long story short we developed a artificial cow, most people assume most methane in cows comes from the back end. This is in fact untrue, cows belch way more methane than any other way. So armed with this we set about developing a continuous closed loop zero waste system.
for a small town (15,000 people)
The science and tech side i have covered, the more tricky politics side and business side is not my thing, i got a business partner who is good. But at the moment we don
t know exactly what we are up against or how to protect it.
We expected to get called out as OU types or HHO type idiots,
well i better declare my HHO views, you cant break physicals laws,
the other downer with it being just about all the HHO guys make the same mistake, wrong anode material, wrong electrolyte, too much voltage and most are over current.
The conference i went too had some HHO guys, i have a bet on with them for next year. I have bet them i can produce at least 25% more hydrogen and oxygen with 1.6V and use half the volume of electrolyte and 10% of the total plate area they use.
Most people in the UK call a vac cleaner a hoover, hoover is actually just a brand and not the name of the device. Be first and be big then patent it.
Depends what you call fringe science, like i said HHO in cars dosnt work. Whats sad however is these guys who build really nice cells, could make something useful if they used real science. Same with over unity stuff,
Same with over unity stuff, nothing we do breaks any laws.
No sorry you got wrong end of the stick, I didnt say hydrogen in cars not being used, i was talking HHO. Hydrogen as a fuel in a cell is different. Burning hydrogen as a fuel in a car isnt going to happen (likely not to anyway), its simply a bear to stop it it getting through most materials. Even Hydrogen tanks (the cylinders) slowly leak!Hi,
I've surprised mysefl by reading all of this, as I don't read much usually, but it is interesting.
I've dealt a little with Hydrogen, and wouldn't discount it from being used in vehicles. Beware however, that as Hydrogen moves through an orific, it generates current and is liable to spark, so look into earthing. If liquid Hydrogen is put into a vehicle, it would need a high vacuum vessel, which would vent off continuously. This vent gas could charge a battery if the vehicle isn't being used at the time.
C.
(Chortle) Around here we refer to those types as being "Tight as a tick... "... I do have a neighbor with a wallet that i often if it keep Hydrogen trapped in it, not much else ever seems to come out of it...... Still owes me £10 for cleaning his tractor 4 years ago! well £16 with interest
(Chortle) Around here we refer to those types as being "Tight as a tick... ".
Hi L,No sorry you got wrong end of the stick, I didnt say hydrogen in cars not being used, i was talking HHO. Hydrogen as a fuel in a cell is different. Burning hydrogen as a fuel in a car isnt going to happen (likely not to anyway), its simply a bear to stop it it getting through most materials. Even Hydrogen tanks (the cylinders) slowly leak!
Breaking Laws is ok depending on the law, but thermo dynamic laws are free lunch laws. Besides even if we didnt have the laws of thermodynamics there is so many other reasons that HHO cells wouldnt work. I do use electrolysis for small amounts of hydrogen, you can make it alot easier than some of the cells they make!.
Simple fact if your using plain water then Graphite cant be beaten for efficiency, if you want really good amounts then sodium Hydroxide around 2M is the goto electrolyte, which means you need a metal that ignores even molten hydroxide, hence Nickel as we melt sodium hydroxide in the lab in Nickel crucibles.
So i am not closed minded, but some things just aint going to happen.
Sorry Camerart about the Hydrogen and car confusion, the main issue at the moment is a materials chemistry issue. More research into catalysts for hydrogen cells is needed. But you still got the problem of keeping the stuff in!! If you think about it, the Hydrogen atom is by far the smallest atom, even the next smallest is twice as big.... so anything you make is going to have holes small enough for it to get through, unless you could make a solid a solid hydrogen container.
I do have a neighbor with a wallet that i often if it keep Hydrogen trapped in it, not much else ever seems to come out of it...... Still owes me £10 for cleaning his tractor 4 years ago! well £16 with interest
Liquid Hydrogen is different again, its in its second lowest state some not so hard to contain. Making electric is normally done in a fuel cell, much like you point out. The real problem is the output due to inefficient catalysts.Hi L,
I mainly wanted you to be aware of the spark problem, if you didn't already know, then thought I would waffle on a bit
Actually, I wasn't talking about burning Hydrogen, I was thinking about adding Hydrogen to the Oxygen in the air, to make electric for electric vehicles.
I was always surprised, that Hydrogen leaks through those steel cylinders.
Thinking about leakage! If the vehicle used liquid Hydrogen, in a vacuum chamber (which is venting off producing electricity) also leaking into a chamber between the container and the vacuum, which is the air intake to the vehicle, any leakage would be used. I haven't thought it through, so perhaps more waffle.
C.
Those are the opposite to what we need, they are like Reverse osmosis membranes, really you want a ion transfer one, you can get them but seriously expensive! Money will drive where the tech goesHi L,
You say you will have a good think about my Hydrogen idea, but do it in conjuction with your other ideas, in case it is useful later.
Some time ago I read about membranes that were so fine that they only passed lighter than air gasses through. I think they use a lot of energy though, as with distillation, for gas separation.
C.
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