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I've never had occasion to use them either since almost all the circcuits I've ever built, besides all the ones that I haven't built, pretty much tend to stay away from the breakdown region. It does give some insight into how SPICE simulators work which is always a handy thing. Thanks Ron.Ron H said:**broken link removed** has reverse breakdown equations, but I have never seen them before, and have no idea if they are valid, or how you would obtain the parameters in the equations. In other words, you're probably on your own.