Hello, I have a 16 year old and have been told she is drinking and driving in my car. I am wanting to install a audio and video cam in my car... thinking the vents.. She sometimes does not have her phone with her so no wifi. Also has to last a week because she goes to college and home on weekends.... so will need it to hold as many hours as possible... do I need a cam with DVR attached ? I have a friend who will wire to battery for power.... Any help would be very appreciated
That might have fatal consequencesYou could call her when you KNOW she's drunk driving
The scenario in my head wasn't calling while she is driving 70mph on a winding wet road, it was calling while at a stoplight or something. Guess I should have been specific.That might have fatal consequences.
Little Ghostman
Not all kids are built the same. Some tactics work better than others. From what I read here, I gather the girl in question is a lot like I was at that age; she fancies herself a rebel, and any attempt to "tighten the leash" will only result in loss of control.
When I was that age, if my dad had installed a camera or a breathalyzer in my car I would figure out how to disable it or I would drive it under a bridge and stick it in the mud and leave it there. My dad "cracked down" on me once, took away my keys, threatened to sell my truck; I told him "go ahead" and I bought my own truck. He couldn't take my phone because I bought it and it was in my name. He couldn't keep me in the house because he had to sleep sometime, and that's when I'd leave, and might not come back for days. I was a real turdburg, and I'm lucky to have made it past that stage of life.
I drank and drove quite often, nearly killed myself more than once. The last time I did, I was 17. I was drunk and racing a friend around a bend. I came off the road and skidded across wet grass and crashed into the side of a house. I missed being impaled by a board through the cab of my truck by <1ft. I missed careening through a bedroom wall and killing an elderly couple by <10ft. I walked away with only scratches and I knew then that next time I would not be so lucky. That's what it took for me to learn the lesson.
Some kids are stupid. Some kids need lessons, every lesson, learned the hard way. Some kids aren't deterred by "putting your foot down" - they see it as a challenge and take extra pleasure in breaking the rules. For a parent of one of those kids (I pity those parents, especially my dad), the best you can hope for is to stay an integral part of their lives and maintain at least some level of influence on them as best you can. Which means not driving them away, not giving them ultimatums that you know they immediately challenge. It means appealing to them on a level that makes them think critically about their own actions. ... I think... I'm not really sure. I feel like if my dad had been less of an authoritarian during that time (less of "a dick," from my POV) then he might have been able to reach me. If he had called me to tell me he was worried about me instead of calling me to tell me that if I didn't come home he would kick my ass, that might have worked better. But I can't say that with certainty. I hope I never have to test that theory. I hope my kids are better than I was, smarter.
16 IMHO is too young too drive and over 75 (for most) is too old
I get what your saying but none of that is going to comfort another parent over the loss of there childs, ultimately if it happened to your kid through someone elseses actions you would say why didnt you simply get them tossed in jail. at least a life would be saved.
Its nothing to do with being a rebel and everything to do with being stupid with OTHER peoples lives.
Maybe the answer is take away the car, then she has to work to get her own, might make her grow up. ALL this assumes the girl IS GUILTY. Lets not hang her without proof.
In The UK 17 is the youngest you can drive but because of insurance etc its often older before you can get a car, your also restricted for 12 months with different driving rules. I drive all the time and have done for a while, but not on PUBLIC roads and mostly tractors.
16 IMHO is too young too drive and over 75 (for most) is too old
How many 24 year olds have driven the wrong way up the motorway because they got confused? And had to have the police chase them and stop traffic, there has been a fair few recently. NOT ALL older drivers I agree, but my mum knows a couple and only he drives. He is 78 now and has dementia, the doctor apparently say he isnt bad enough for him to legally have his license taken away, and yet last month he was here at our house and couldnt remember how to start the car!Steady on there LG
Young drivers (17-24 years old) are at a much higher risk of crashing than older drivers. Drivers aged 17-19 only make up 1.5% of UK licence holders, but are involved in 12% of fatal and serious crashes .
There were 10,974 accidents involving drivers over the age of 70 in 2011, says the DFT. That compares with 11,946 accidents involving 17-to-19-year-old drivers and 24,007 accidents involving 20-to-24-year-old drivers.
173 drivers aged between 20 and 29 involved in an accident died. That compared with 59 deaths in drivers aged between 70 and 79
Cant you get a device that wires into the ignition? you have to blow into it or it wont start, if it was me I would also get a cam and tell her. Certainly talk to her about what you have heard.
Forget trust and all the nicey nicey stuff. Its your car! She kills someone or herself (not nice if its her but thats the risk you take when your stupid) then its down to you pure and simple. Best way to look at it is decide now what your going to say to her friends mums or whoever she kills if she hits someone while drunk, 'i am really sorry but I didnt want to destroy the trust we had'?
'Sorry you kid died but I just didnt have the heart to take the car away until she could be sensible'?
I might sound harsh but then again the above is the reality, not everyone who drinks and drives kills someone, but every one who does kills through drink could of been prevented!
One last perspective.................
Do you ever tell your daughter not to get into a car with a driver thats been drinking? What would you say to a mother of a driver that killed your daughter while drunk, when she came knocking to your door? " thats Ok kids will be kids"? " yes its very sad your daughter killed mine, but lets face it we all have a drink and drive"??
You dont know me and I am sure you think I am horrible, but I am 15 and cant drive for two years. I have 2 friends that are old enough to drive, one I wont even get in his car!! He dosnt drink and drive but he is an accident looking for somewhere to happen and I dont want to be there.
Oh and tell her if you get the slightest hint she is drink driving or whatever you will call the cops, lets face it her not talking to you for a while is way better than you never being able to talk to her again.
Its not tough love, its sense and your meant to do whatever it takes to protect her, more than that you have no right to let her near your car if you even suspect she is doing something that might kill someone else..
Ok I am back to being nice again
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