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Anyone see a pattern? Solar, perhaps? Anyway, notable peaks (and valleys) that certainly preclude human influence. Or, to my way of thinking, pre-"Chicken Little" would be experts, politicians and media enablers....
I'm with Les on this one... Too many babies, not enough trees..
Seems like there are some pretty smart dudes crunching that data. I wouldn't think it would be difficult to spot an installation that is suddenly 5 degrees different and either fix it or toss it out.ronv on the second link, in the second video, they talked about being careful not to skew the data, yet, it's been proven some weather stations in the pool have been influenced by external things including installation practices. **broken link removed**
There is a nice graph of the reporting stations and the error expected by that class of station.
Hello Nikolai- we meet again.
I take it that 35.5C is hot for winter in Vietnam.
One of the basic tenants about the climate is that you can't draw conclusions from a single event or even fron a short time event. The world is a huge integrator, especially the sea, and things change very slowly, much longer than 1 year or even 10 years. When you say first time- is that since Vietnam was first formed by plate tectonics or since records first began.
I heard a thing on TV the other day that said it's been the hottest summer in so and so place 'since records began'- big worry, so I checked: records began in 1981. And they didn't mention on the news that the previous three years had been the coldest 'since records began'.
Also, weather is not predictable however convincing the weather men seem- how can it be? Have you heard about the butterfly effect? It says that, because of chaos theory, if a butterfly flaps it's wings in Australia it could cause bad weather in England.
Have you ever noticed how inaccurate the weather forecasts are? Where I live on the south west coast of England, we have predominately westerly winds and the weather forecasts are deadly accurate.. for a day. Why: because the weather radars and other sensors pick up the weather situation- clouds, temperature, barometric pressure, wind- say 240 miles away over the Atlantic. The wind speed is 10 miles per hour. You can do the sums. However if the wind changes, which it naturally does, even the 24 hour forecast goes to pieces. Any forecast further forward- forget it. These are the same people who are forecasting global temperatures 20 and 50 years ahead, which is conveniently far off that there are no consequences if they are wrong.
I have a load of global warming books from 20 years ago, and not only has the hockey stick graph, which was the only evidence the IPCC had, been proven to be a fabrication and has now been withdrawn, but the forecasts are way off too., around +2 deg C by 2015: actual increase, according to the the latest IPCC claims, 0.7 degrees.
All this stuff about sea level rise is also tenuous. First thing is how do you measure sea level. They talk about inches but waves are orders higher, not to mention tides which in this area are 22 feet, or thereabouts. I have a text book which says it is impossible to accurately gauge sea level- what is the reference point? The sea-level claims fly in the face of facts it seems.
What gets me hot under the collar is that it's obvious that the weather has been changed by the firing of the big guns on the Western Front in the First World War, and after that by letting off atom bombs in the 1940s and 1950s. Why can't people see that!
That will help things cool down.I see Mount Etna is sending fire and ash across the Sicilian skyline, The massive volcanic plume came from the Voragine crater in what was its first eruption to reach the surface since 2013. It is thought that activity started around a month ago with explosions inside the crater that the too small to reach the rim.
Correct, the Earth has plenty of convection to even out the hot and cold spots. My car and a greenhouse does not have any cold spots unless I open the doors and windows. Both get hot because convection does not bypass the insulation of the structures. The Earth gets hotter because its does not radiate the same amount of heat as it takes in. Outward radiation does not effect a greenhouse and a car very much. Therefore, the Earth should not be compared to a greenhouse. Since the amount of CO2 is miniscule compared to the oxygen and nitrogen, I believe it is safe to assume the insulation qualities of CO2 and water vapor, which are a physical phenomena, are not significant. If it were a chemical reaction, then I would believe that a very small amount could have a big influence.Not quite the same with the earth as with your car.
Almost all of the earths lost heat is from radiation, not conduction or convection. If you put a fan inside your closed car will it get cooler or only more uniform in it's heat? Anyway there is lots of stuff to read on this.
I'm guessing you think it is the government that is paying all these people for their views or is it the rich solar and wind companies.
No, not for the CO2, but they have to clean up their sulfer, carbon particulates, dirt, and radiation. Yes, there are radioactive substances in coal. Look at how things are in China from coal burning without scrubbers.I'm not sure I would shut down all the coal fired power plants either, but I did buy some LED bulbs. Really like them.
The climate change debate has been polarized into a simple dichotomy. Either global warming is “real, man-made and dangerous,” as Pres. Barack Obama thinks, or it’s a “hoax,” as Oklahoma Sen. James Inhofe thinks. But there is a third possibility: that it is real, man-made and not dangerous, at least not for a long time.
I hope you are right. I tend down that line myself.
I hope you are right. I tend down that line myself.
But if you stick to the science it is an interesting subject.
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