Is the forum gettin less civil ?

rjvh said:

I admid that english is not my first language as many others on this forum
and i do have a lot of grammar and spelling mistakes in my posts deu to dislexy and having realy a hard time to get a spelling checker working in the dialoge box

still the examples you give are in no way english or another teached language that i know and I simply cant response to that as i don't know it

For the civil part of the forum I think it's absolut not bad
(personaly i think it's getting better as that a few members express there ideas in a more balanced way than that before was the case)

everybody has his opinions and that will clash sometimes but if that hapends in a respectfull way than you have a pretty good platform to learn

Robert-Jan

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these are not serious issues. as I see this typing I get spell mistakes marked with red underline, almost like MS word.At times i cut and paste the word into MS office, search for the right word and bring it back here. I am also against the sms or chat codes being used on the forum. it is too early and it would only let an O P loose his ability of expression in internationally accepted nominal English at lest, if not a perfect English. Afterall I expect some of them to publish few articles later in their life.

then , difference of opinions is also not an issue. Unless we differ in opinions, the society would not have developed to this stage, and perhaps we will remain at Adam and Eve times only.

Main worries are letting down members on regional basis like so called 'cultured etc' indirectly telling the other man as less-cultured. after all we dreamt for the world to be a global village, by virtue of communications developments. I felt for the last three years approx, that i am now in a real society.let others share if I know something and simultaneously learn at my 62+, what I didn't in the past. At times i feel sad for the type of ragging behavior of few (very few) members.

Hope that our site offers its best to international community with no partitions across. and the world community gains from the renowned electro-tech-online

Tex speak is plane rude to use in a forum or in general acsepted writing protocol situation in my opinion it shows that your lazy and there is nothing sophisticated about it

I do agree that it might be easyer on a mobile phone but if you can't make the diference of when you use it than you lack a verry importand part of education in my opinion

some day it will end up in an official invitation from a company or so, well i would think twice to do business with them

Robert-Jan

mvs sarma said:

these are not serious issues. as I see this typing I get spell mistakes marked with red underline, almost like MS word.At times i cut and paste the word into MS office, search for the right word and bring it back here.

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In case you didn't know, you can just right click the underlined word and a list of possible spellings will pop up for you to choose from.

This is the only electronics forum I have joined. But I feel I was pretty lucky judging by some of the other sites. For the most part, I feel most people are very helpful and civil. I also appreciate the patience and restraint seasoned members have shown to others who had different opinions or were simply wrong in their analysis of a problem (I have been on the receiving end a couple of times). I, personally, do not want to be right all the time. You would never learn anything. Often times, I have to put my preconceived ideas, about what I think about a subject,aside, and be more open-minded. And to my surprise, I increase my knowledge base. I've learned a tremendous amount in my short 3 weeks on this forum through others and by doing my own research suggested by others.

Firefox and Opera both have a spell checker, Firefox's is the best because it underlines mistakes in red.

Internet Explorer doesn't have a built-in spell checker but you can install a spell checker add-on.

It does?
Could you link it, is it a MS add on or third party?

The Mad Professor said:

Google an a few other sites have very reasonable on-line translation facilities that are free to use but alas have yet to find anything that can decrypt an adolescents text speak.

Next time a newbie appears using this dialect perhaps we should put our collective heads together and give a thorough and exhaustive reply in the same tongue that they are apparently comfortable using and see how they like it.

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Mercur said:

It does?
Could you link it, is it a MS add on or third party?

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The main one is ieSpell which is free for non-commercial use.

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=S...s=org.mozilla:en-GB:official&client=firefox-a

kchriste said:

In case you didn't know, you can just right click the underlined word and a list of possible spellings will pop up for you to choose from.

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Thanks Kchriste

rjvh said:

Tex speak is plane rude to use in a forum or in general acsepted writing protocol situation in my opinion it shows that your lazy and there is nothing sophisticated about it
IRobert-Jan

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I somewhat disagree -- when communicating with folks of similar interests, using abbreviations is fine since they know the full meaning behind them. If the folks are of other interests, then yes it may not be appropriate.

EXAMPLE: since this is an electronic forum, I see nothing wrong when abbreviating words like xformer, xtal, xsistor, RF, DC, etc. Now if I were to use them in a Outdoor/Camping forum I could see the obvious reason to avoid it. Amateur Radio enthusiasts very often use abbreviations... in fact it's well accepted and almost a necessity be it verbal or written communications.

HiTech said:

I somewhat disagree -- when communicating with folks of similar interests, using abbreviations is fine since they know the full meaning behind them. If the folks are of other interests, then yes it may not be appropriate.

EXAMPLE: since this is an electronic forum, I see nothing wrong when abbreviating words like xformer, xtal, xsistor, RF, DC, etc. Now if I were to use them in a Outdoor/Camping forum I could see the obvious reason to avoid it. Amateur Radio enthusiasts very often use abbreviations... in fact it's well accepted and almost a necessity be it verbal or written communications.

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You are perfectly correct in standard abbreviations.

But things like wud for would, sk for seek, pleeeeeese for please, cum for come, etc are at times confusing and one might better use standard English.
It just calls for little more patience, as he is addressing to an international membership. Overall, it helps him/her to acquire a better English writing habit.

The Mad Professor said:

Google an a few other sites have very reasonable on-line translation facilities that are free to use but alas have yet to find anything that can decrypt an adolescents text speak.

Next time a newbie appears using this dialect perhaps we should put our collective heads together and give a thorough and exhaustive reply in the same tongue that they are apparently comfortable using and see how they like it.

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For the record I am capable of both decoding and writing the mysterious language of teenagers (most of the time), and yes because I am one; but using text speak or 'txt spk' outside of sms or private communique's irritates me.
So I'd be happy to decode for anyone.

HiTech said:

I somewhat disagree -- when communicating with folks of similar interests, using abbreviations is fine since they know the full meaning behind them. If the folks are of other interests, then yes it may not be appropriate.

EXAMPLE: since this is an electronic forum, I see nothing wrong when abbreviating words like xformer, xtal, xsistor, RF, DC, etc. Now if I were to use them in a Outdoor/Camping forum I could see the obvious reason to avoid it. Amateur Radio enthusiasts very often use abbreviations... in fact it's well accepted and almost a necessity be it verbal or written communications.

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Hi hitech

I don't have anny problems with standard abbreviations altough I am not familiar with Xsistor,Xtal ,X former

I asume it means resistor
Xtal don't have a cleu and the dictionary couldn't help me either
Xformer eeeh transformer

RF and DC is not a problem

SMS speak is just abracadbra for me and even when i try to run my imagination than still i have a hard time to understand what they try to say

and in my opinion its language with at least a form of standarazation of it that makes us understand eachother

Robert-Jan

Xistor = transistor
Xtal = crystal

HiTech said:

Xistor = transistor
Xtal = crystal

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Those are the standard radio electronics abbreviations like :Xmitter, and Xsistor and Xtal. If you read the ARRL handbook you will see them used quite often.

I just lost my bi-filer wound Xformer...lol. I'm making a mixer.

"X" usually refers to "trans" like Xfer would be transfer.

Space Varmint said:

"X" usually refers to "trans" like Xfer would be transfer.

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So you are saying that I can label you as a Xgender or Xvestite and you'll know what I'm talking about?

HiTech said:

So you are saying that I can label you as a Xgender or Xvestite and you'll know what I'm talking about?

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If you do you had better keep on eye on your monitor.

Space Varmint said:

I just lost my bi-filer wound Xformer...lol. I'm making a mixer.

"X" usually refers to "trans" like Xfer would be transfer.

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It is also often used to replace the sound "kris" or "kros" in a word, such as in "railroad xing" (railroad crossing) or "xtal" (crystal). Many people refer to Christmas as "Xmas" (especially in informal writing) and on some forums, Christians are referred to as "Xtians". Some Christians find that mildly offensive; most of the ones I know don't.

Usually if I see a word starting with X which I don't immediately recognize, trying to sound it out with "trans", "kris", or "kros" will get me the answer.


Torben

HiTech said:

Xistor = transistor
Xtal = crystal

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Although I don't see the logic in it I do know now what it means

Thanks for the educational enlightment

Robert-Jan