Pi pico reading ibuttons

whiz115 · Mar 27, 2022

hi

i would like to modify this micropython code so it can read the DS1920-F5 thermometer

Code:

import machine, onewire, ds18x20, time
 
ds_pin = machine.Pin(16)
ds_sensor = ds18x20.DS18X20(onewire.OneWire(ds_pin))
 
roms = ds_sensor.scan()
print('Found a ds18x20 device')
 
while True:
  ds_sensor.convert_temp()
  time.sleep_ms(750)
  for rom in roms:
    print(ds_sensor.read_temp(rom))
  time.sleep(2)

can you help me out?

here's the datasheet

https://eu.mouser.com/datasheet/2/256/DS1920-1514587.pdf

Pommie · Mar 27, 2022

The DS1920 has the same family code (0x10) as the DS1820 so it should work as is.

Mike.

whiz115 · Mar 28, 2022

Pommie said:
The DS1920 has the same family code (0x10) as the DS1820 so it should work as is.

Mike.

great! but do you think it should be alright at 3.3V? and there's no need to be connected
to a 5V device?

also the wiring how it should be done? the above example code was about a DS18B20 which
uses 3 pins (VCC, GND, GPIO16) while the ibutton needs GND and DATA and it says something
about parasitic powering, is it enough connecting GND and GPIO16 to it?

Pommie · Mar 28, 2022

The 1820 can also use parasitic power, try it and see. It's normal for one wire devices. It just needs a longer time between transmissions, check the library, see what it's doing. Post a link to it and I may be able to explain but I've never used python.

Mike.

whiz115 · Mar 28, 2022

i've got this library code which i guess it does exactly the same as the library used in the above code i posted

Onewire Driver

docs.pycom.io

whiz115 · Mar 28, 2022

Running the code with the ibutton connected only prints 'Found a ds18x20 device'

if i disconnect it it prints OneWireError: with the lines of code concerning the error message.

whiz115 · Mar 29, 2022

any help?

rjenkinsgb · Mar 29, 2022

This library appears to support either 18x20 or 1920 devices, depending which option you enable in the header file.

GitHub - theforest/Arduino-libOneWireSensors: One Wire Sensors library for Arduino

One Wire Sensors library for Arduino. Contribute to theforest/Arduino-libOneWireSensors development by creating an account on GitHub.

github.com

Note that the device IDs / family codes are different; 18x20 is 0x28, 1920 is 0x10, so different settings would likely be needed for the two different devices - which explains the header options.

whiz115 · Mar 29, 2022

rjenkinsgb said:
This library appears to support either 18x20 or 1920 devices, depending which option you enable in the header file.

GitHub - theforest/Arduino-libOneWireSensors: One Wire Sensors library for Arduino

One Wire Sensors library for Arduino. Contribute to theforest/Arduino-libOneWireSensors development by creating an account on GitHub.

github.com

Note that the device IDs / family codes are different; 18x20 is 0x28, 1920 is 0x10, so different settings would likely be needed for the two different devices - which explains the header options.

hi, thanks for the reply

problem is..this is OneWire library for arduino while i'm on pico and micropython.

what can i modify on the code i posted earlier so i can make it work with a DS1920-F5
thermometer? @Pommie said it should work, but i can only notice some short of
communication between the ibutton and the pico but there's no temperature output.

Nigel Goodwin · Mar 29, 2022

whiz115 said:
hi, thanks for the reply

problem is..this is OneWire library for arduino while i'm on pico and micropython.

what can i modify on the code i posted earlier so i can make it work with a DS1920-F5
thermometer? @Pommie said it should work, but i can only notice some short of
communication between the ibutton and the pico but there's no temperature output.

You need to port it over, it's usually far easier to port Arduino C++ to other languages, than to write your own from scratch - mostly because datasheets tend to be fairly vague, and often wrong.

Pommie · Mar 30, 2022

Do you know if the code in post #1 actually works? Looking at the library, you need to call start_conversion(), wait (at least) 750mS and then read the scratchpad. The DS1920 has the same device ID (0x10) as a DS18S20. The library should just work as there's no way to know if a DS1920 or a DS18S20 is connected. I suspect the code in the first post is incomplete and a further search might be more successful.

Mike.
Edit, the code on this page looks more correct.
Edit, I see that is the same code as post #1. Check your hardware (4k7 pullup etc.) against that page.

whiz115 · Mar 30, 2022

i think it's alright! the pullup resistor solved the problem i'm using 3.2k resistor for the 3.3V which i
had spare, i'm reading the current temperature.. right? though 28c seems too high for room
temperature at this period,

how can i make it read and store temperatures so i can read them later?

Pommie · Mar 30, 2022

You could store the 8 byte scratchpad readings (or just the two byte temperature) and interpret them as needed.
I suggest you read at least one scratchpad area and convert the temperature by hand to try and work out why it's wrong - unless it really is 28°C and you're sweating a lot!!!! Note, once converted, you can read the (unchanged) temperature as many times as you like without the 750mS delay.

I assume something like,
print(ds_sensor.read_temp(roms[0]))
will read the first sensor.
Note, first as in lowest rom number - not first in line.

Mike.

whiz115 · Mar 30, 2022

Pommie said:
You could store the 8 byte scratchpad readings (or just the two byte temperature) and interpret them as needed.
I suggest you read at least one scratchpad area and convert the temperature by hand to try and work out why it's wrong - unless it really is 28°C and you're sweating a lot!!!! Note, once converted, you can read the (unchanged) temperature as many times as you like without the 750mS delay.

I assume something like,
print(ds_sensor.read_temp(roms[0]))
will read the first sensor.
Note, first as in lowest rom number - not first in line.

Mike.

i think the readings i'm getting it's from my hand touching the metal case,
do you think it could somehow conveniently work as a standalone device storing the values
without being permanently connected to the Pico?

Pommie · Mar 30, 2022

whiz115 said:
do you think it could somehow conveniently work as a standalone device storing the values
without being permanently connected to the Pico?

They (or it) wont. However, they do contain 2 bytes of EEPROM to hold the alarm temperature. You could read the scratch pad, copy bytes 0 and 1 to bytes 2 and 3, write back the scratchpad and issue a Copy Scratchpad command to store it in the EEPROM. This would require some programming by you. You might find an example that writes the alarm values.

Mike.

whiz115 · Mar 30, 2022

Pommie said:
They (or it) wont.

they should contain a battery inside to work autonomously.. something like a BR1225
although the datasheet says nothing about it.

i know the pico has already a thermometer built-in, but ibutton interests me if it can
go standalone.

Pommie · Mar 30, 2022

To do what you want would need some kind of temperature logger. The OW devices are simple sensors that can only be commanded by a micro.

Mike.

whiz115 · Mar 31, 2022

Pommie said:
To do what you want would need some kind of temperature logger. The OW devices are simple sensors that can only be commanded by a micro.

Mike.

I thought that scratchpad could log a value, which could transfered to internal memory and then retrieve them later.. Whats the point of these tiny devices in a metal case if they need to be constantly connected somewhere?

Features and Benefits:

• 1-wire serial interface
• Self-aligns with cup-shaped probes
• Can be affixed with self-adhesive backing, latched by it's flange and locked with a ring
• Password protection for memory and control functions
• Stores 8KB of data-log memory

DS1920-F5+ | Maxim Integrated Temperature Sensor, 1-Wire, ±2°C, 2 Pins | RS

my.rs-online.com

if it has to be constantly wired,then there are the DS18x20 sensors that look like a transistor.. or some other OneWire types that look like a probe..

is it certain it should be wired all the time? so then pico is more suitable since it can log temperatures non stop to a file..

whiz115 · Apr 1, 2022

any opinion on this?

[edit]
reading again the datasheet i guess the above description incorrectly refers to the DS1920
which it isn't data logger as the DS1922L right??

Pommie · Apr 1, 2022

The 1922L is indeed a data logger but has a different family code (0x41) to the others so the above library will need modifying.

Mike.

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