PIC10F200 Programmer

[wmmullaney]

Hi, I want to adapt http://programmer-pic16f84.blogspot.com/ to work with the 6 pin PIC10F200T.

Please Help!
Thanks.

 

[johankj]

Hi, I want to adapt **broken link removed** to work with the 6 pin PIC10F200T.

Please Help!
Thanks.

I couldn't open your link. Besides, isn't that device a SMD?

 

[wmmullaney]

I don't know... Heres some info: **broken link removed**

(I fixed the above link)

 

[blueroomelectronics]

The 10f200 is an teeny tiny smd (6pin)
Odd choise for a starter PIC, recommend you choose a 12F508 or 12F629 as a starter PIC and they're available in 8 pin DIP packages.

 

[wmmullaney]

First, what's an smd?

Second, I don't need many i/o pins

Third, It's a free sample from microchip

Help me on adaper please!!!

 

[Nigel Goodwin]

First, what's an smd?

Surface Mount Device.

Second, I don't need many i/o pins

Third, It's a free sample from microchip

Help me on adaper please!!!

Assuming you want to use it, you need to mount it on a PCB and use In Circuit Serial Programming (ICSP) to program it.

Silly choice of device - get something more sensible instead, the 18 pin 16F628 or 16F88 are good choices.

 

[blueroomelectronics]

Trust me, you want a DIP package if you're just starting out. They make the 10F series in DIP but it's the same 8 pin package as the 12F509
SMD = Surface Mount and often very very small, difficult to handle especially for a novice.

Edit: as Nigel mentioned, start with a more common PIC like the 16F628 (easy to port 16F84 code) or new 16F88
And DON'T use the 16F84 it's been discontinued...
PS your PICPROG software doesn't seem to support the 10F chips, it's list of chips are...

12F629; 12F675
16F72; 16F73; 16F74; 16F76; 16F77
16F84A; 16F84A REV2; 16LF84A; 16F87; 16F88
16F627; 16F627 REV2; 16F627A; 16F628; 16F628 REV2; 16F628A; 16F628A REV2; 16LF627; 16LF628
16F629; 16F630; 16F648A; 16F675; 16F676; 16F818; 16F819
16F870; 16F871; 16F872; 16F873; 16F873A; 16F874; 16F874A; 16F876; 16F876A; 16F877; 16F877A
The following chips can still be programmed, but they are not recognized:
16C84; 16CL84; 16F83; 16F84

Here's a how to solder guide https://www.curiousinventor.com/guides/How_To_Solder
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Above an SMD IC , below a typical 8 PIN DIP IC.
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[Krumlink]

A 8 pin DIP Chip is about the size of your pinky's finger nail. a 6 pin SMD chip is a quarter of that!

As suggested above, get a 16F88 or 16F628A, a Inchworm+ (**broken link removed**) and some electronic essentials.

 

[Diver300]

The 10F200 is available in DIL8. I think it is like that for prototypes.

 

[blueroomelectronics]

The more common 12F629 is also DIL8, seems silly to have a 6pin part in an 8 pin package though.

 

[wmmullaney]

Thanks, I do NOT need any help on soldering, i'm fine at that. Will all these DIP pics just pop right in my programmer and work?

 

[Nigel Goodwin]

Thanks, I do NOT need any help on soldering, i'm fine at that. Will all these DIP pics just pop right in my programmer and work?

As long as your programmer is designed to program them, and it includes suitable sockets.

 

[wmmullaney]

I don't know if it is!!!! That's why I came here. It says it will program a pic16f84a, will it program the 8 pin pics mentioned above? Can you help me with were the pics pins will go? Lastly, i NEED to know the color codes on a serial cable. (I ripped one up)

 

[Nigel Goodwin]

I don't know if it is!!!! That's why I came here. It says it will program a pic16f84a, will it program the 8 pin pics mentioned above? Can you help me with were the pics pins will go?

You can get the pins from the datasheet of the individual PIC you're wanting to use. Does the software you're using support the chip you're wanting to use?.

Lastly, i NEED to know the color codes on a serial cable. (I ripped one up)

Get a meter and test them, there are no standard colours.

 

[blueroomelectronics]

Do you actually read the replys here? The PICPROG software doesn't seem to support the 10F chips.
As for serial port colors? It can vary from manufacture.

 

[wmmullaney]

Ok, I won't use the 10f chip. Any ICSP chip that has 8 pins will work fine.

I can't figure out how to connect the 8 pin pic to an 18 pin socket.(on the above mentioned programmer)

If picprog won't work with the 8 pin chips, what about winpic?

 

[blueroomelectronics]

It will work with 8 pin PICs, just not all of them. The 12F629 is a nice wee PIC, it's popular and should be well supported.
You place pin 1 of the 8pin PIC on pin 5 of the programmer socket.

This programmer appears to support the 10F series.
https://www.coolcircuit.com/project/picprog/

 

[wmmullaney]

ok, forget the 10f, so my programmer will work with it. Could you possably send a picture of how you do it?

 

[wmmullaney]

how many of the pic's pins are conneted, wich ones, were do they go?

Sorry

wmmullaney

 

[wmmullaney]

No, really, please help!!!