Exo said:that's why it is a celeron !
celeron's are meant to be cheap, and what takes op the most die space on a cpu ? exactly ! cache !
so, how do you make cheap cpu's ? you cut the cache and reduce transistor count from 150 million to 80 million in a flash.
if there's one make that uses large caches to overcome the flaws in its frontside bus architecture then its intel. Conroe will even have a massive 4MB of cache !
AMD, on the other hand uses relatively small caches because their IMC (integrated memory controller) offers low latency access directly to system memory.
Problem = Celeron. I can find you lots of AMDs that have 128kb caches, so dont find the lowest end Intel you can and bash all Intels based on it. The new Core Duo 2 chips come with a whopping 4mb of cache (2x2mb) and wont exceed 45°C under FULL LOAD. Put that in your pipe and smoke it.Marks256 said:The thing i hate most about intel processers, is they have so much speed, but such a small cache, that the speed isn't shown! I got a 2.6ghz Intel Celeron for free(from the trash, seriously), and it only had a 128l2 cache! I would expect something like; 256, or 512 would be nice. Or 1mb. But no; 128! That sucks! Amd is all speed and chache(along with alot of style!)
ParkingLotLust said:Problem = Celeron. I can find you lots of AMDs that have 128kb caches, so dont find the lowest end Intel you can and bash all Intels based on it. The new Core Duo 2 chips come with a whopping 4mb of cache (2x2mb) and wont exceed 45°C under FULL LOAD. Put that in your pipe and smoke it.
ParkingLotLust said:Thats what BTX was designed for. Then they scrapped it. Ohwell.
My Pentium4 2.93GHz operates at 52 degrees C. It has an automatic variable speed fan that keeps that temp. I hear the fan speed up when the processor is thinking very hard.ParkingLotLust said:Intels arent supposed to go over 65 degrees celsuis, I dont know what that is in farenheit, but AMDs are supposed to run cooler than that.
Marks256 said:Yes, 4 cores will be nice, but AMD is gonna kick ass if they can pull of a 8 core processer! I have a bad fealing the cases will need really advanced cooling systems. What is a safe tempurature for operation on a CPU. I have my AMD Sempron 2800+(32bit), it reaches temps of about 100-103. Is that safe? Or am i tempting fate? It isn't overclocked, but i did once, temps went really high. I am also using a stock heatsink and fan.
Marks256 said:Yes, 4 cores will be nice, but AMD is gonna kick ass if they can pull of a 8 core processer! I have a bad fealing the cases will need really advanced cooling systems. What is a safe tempurature for operation on a CPU. I have my AMD Sempron 2800+(32bit), it reaches temps of about 100-103. Is that safe? Or am i tempting fate? It isn't overclocked, but i did once, temps went really high. I am also using a stock heatsink and fan.
Marks256 said:Sorry, i am still trying to grasp metric measurements. So my temps are very good? So it would safe to overclock it? Hmmm.....
Marks256 said:Yes, i will look at a non-stock cooler. Thanks!
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