USB Pic programmers

williB said:

That FT232BM is a nice chip..
https://www.ftdichip.com/FTProducts.htm#FT232BM

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BUT, I am still looking for even simplier solution.... with integrated EEPROM and crystal, with less leads and in PDIP package (breadboard usage), Ideal would be "drop-in" replacement for MAX232

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Andy_123 said:

BUT, I am still looking for even simplier solution.... with integrated EEPROM and crystal, with less leads and in PDIP package (breadboard usage), Ideal would be "drop-in" replacement for MAX232

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This never gona happen, all new designs not coming in bulky DIP

For prototype and breadboard use FT232 modules like this:

https://www.dlpdesign.com/usb/usb232.shtml
It has all you asking for in DIP.
**broken link removed**

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Jay.slovak said:

I know about this sollution, but it is still too big for me :lol:

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evandude said:

Jay.slovak said:

I know about this sollution, but it is still too big for me :lol:

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you are contradicting yourself. if you want breadboard functionality, use something like that. if you want small, use the surface-mount one.

considering it already has the chip, USB connector, crystal, and various other parts on it, which would end up saving you breadboard space.

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I am still looking for even simplier solution.... with integrated EEPROM and crystal, with less leads and in PDIP package (breadboard usage), Ideal would be "drop-in" replacement for MAX232 Very Happy

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evandude said:

I would say... keep dreaming :lol: the surface-mount chip is smaller and has more features than it would be if it were a DIP... and why does it matter how big it is for breadboarding? the point of breadboarding is to prototype stuff, not to make tiny finished products, and if you actually make a finished product, then the surface-mount chip would probably be better anyway.

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Jay.slovak said:

Yes, it is. It's cool how easy you can port your applications to USB...

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Nigel Goodwin said:

Jay.slovak said:

Yes, it is. It's cool how easy you can port your applications to USB...

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I think you need to remember what you're actually doing!, this isn't 'porting your application to USB' - it's leaving your application with a serial interface, and merely adding a USB to Serial converter. You can buy these at low cost as an external unit, and even as part of a connecting lead - which is no different to using these converter chips.

If you want to port your application to USB, you need to use one of the USB enabled PIC's - and learn the complexities of USB programming!.

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Jay.slovak said:

I think, that "we technicians" shouldn't play with words... We all know what we what to say, it doesn't matter if the sentance is wrong. The main thing is to solve our problem and to learn something now 8)

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