I guess it follows that someone in an unpaid position for a profitable enterprise could potentially (perhaps justifiably) not consider clients, clients.If you want to lose a client, that is the exact phrase to use.
My question:
Under what circumstances would a post to an old thread not get locked?
I guess it follows that someone in an unpaid position for a profitable enterprise could potentially (perhaps justifiably) not consider clients, clients.
Actually, are we the members, the clients? Or are the clients the people who don't sign up/sign in, and view the adverts? I guess I must admit to volunteering my own time and donating my own resources (knowledge, sometimes) to the for-profit gig. So then me & the mods are on the same team, further diluting the "client" role.
</devil's advocate>
Not IMO. The clients are the people who drop in looking for help or advice. On the other hand, the established, long-term members with extensive hobby or professional experience-- i.e., those who provide that help and advice-- are best looked on as business assets because without them, the board has little value. The moderators are just there to keep the whole thing running smoothly.Actually, are we the members, the clients?
It is all a question of semantics. A business relies on its clients for survival and profit. Always has and always will be that way. Those who provide pro bono advice, some of which is sometimes good, fit the function of clients. The questioners are the commodity. They come, go, are somewhat expendable, and can be bought. Without the clients, the business would cease to exist. That is, a forum without good answers will cease to exist.
Of course, the words get a bit abstract when you try to fit them to that model, but show me a single successful forum where the contributing members don't contribute? There are far more lazy people in the world willing to ask a question than willing to look up the answer. The number of individuals willing to help and show how smart they are is far less. That is why I consider the question askers as the raw material (as in a manufacturer) or employees (as in a service organization).
John
I wouldn't mind seeing a few more clients (noobs asking questions) here. Kind of dull outside of the off-topic / members lounge. How can we drum up some business?
How can we drum up some business?
OK, please tell, what are all these threads which are being culled here?ETO, I am saddened to report, isn't close to either of them. I suspect that ETOs numbers were influenced by culling the threads which can lower the posts per day and threads per day figures.
Not sure what transpired? Agree, more clients would be nice.
Well, this moderator at least has no connection whatsoever with the "money flow".none of us, with the possible exception of our moderators, is aware of how the money flows.
Back around the middle to end of 2012 going into 2013 (just look through the Site feedback and Members lounge for complaints and good bye threads in that time frame for reference) what is happening over at AAC is basically what went down here.
I and a few others were getting tossed out and banned on a weekly basis largely over nothing by one power mad moderator and then given a run around over the reasons why while certain other members had free run to do and post whatever wherever without repercussions.
A lot of bigger posters left in and around that time as well which is easily confirmed by the number of goodbye threads posted in the members lounge from 2012 into 2013.
After that a rewrite of the rules came about and the one moderator got tossed for a while then things quieted down but traffic was slower ever since.
That's the simplified explanation of what happened and when. It only took one over the top moderator and the unwillingness of the site ownership to accept that there was a problem to bring the whole site down to a crawl that it has yet to recover from even as years have gone by.
I hope there wasn't any perceived negative connotation with my postulation. It was simply a theory to explain why you're the only moderator shown on the "staff" page.Well, this moderator at least has no connection whatsoever with the "money flow".
Contrary to what was postulated in another post, I am most definitely not part of the "Management".
I am just an ordinary user, who was asked by the previous owner of ETO to be a moderator here. The new owners were happy that I carry on moderating, and so that is what I do.
JimB
I don't like bullies or gangs. That moderator was doing a fantastic job. He was not power hungry and to the outside world was not targeting people. Every one of his comments was on-topic and constructive. True, some people's egos may have gotten bruised, but those same individuals had/have the same complaints at AAC. His loss left a hole at ETO that those who complained the most have failed utterly to fill in the least.
Its interesting to note that the same small group who caused the unrest at ETO are prominent in the unrest at AAC .
I have no idea why I appear on the staff page.I hope there wasn't any perceived negative connotation with my postulation. It was simply a theory to explain why you're the only moderator shown on the "staff" page.
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