"Recent calculations project that by 2050 there be more plastic in the ocean than fish"
When you start calling papers written by top scientists and published in nature BS,
you said you were up on the figures, so i am going to guess you think your GOV is just wasting your precious money spending all that cash on trying to clean up the oceans.
Surely it would be better spent giving you a tax break?
As I pointed out that was a single paper from Nature, there are a great many other in the same publication, this is what NASSA partly based there data on, that and images taken from space.
I am really amazed your not a flat earth person, how did someone convince you the earth was round ?? especially as the bit you stand on is flat?
This is such a pointless argument, it really dosnt matter what you think or believe. We have enough men of science that people believe for governments to take action, most recently England and the plastic recovery scheme.
Emotional bias? no your confusing me with someone else.
So you agree then, plastic in the Ocean is a problem?
my desire to do something about certain issues is commercially based and backed by science, emotion does not come into it. I want to do something about it because its where my main talent is and i see money in it.
That aside, i think most most rational human beings find pictures of the devastation we cause distressing, people living in poverty is distressing. Oil to me is a precious resource that is treated like it was some kind of never ending resource.
Go back through everything you have stated is BS and find me scientific evidence to back it up as BS. not some mickey mouse site but a decent peer reviewed paper written in the last 10 years.
Tiny problem with your scenario, something myself and others have spotted.
Any plastic above 0% in the Ocean is a problem,
take one of the many chemicals plastic leach in a chloride environment, and indecently contrary to idiotic belief do not degrade in any way shape or form,
My gut feeling is you looked at a couple of beaches somewhere and saw a few bits of plastic, you then extrapolated from that the amount of plastic you assume is in the Ocean.
Others have actually gone out and studied it, weighed measured and recorded the amounts. The figures are so staggering that 70% of every nation on earth has its removal as a priority, including the USA.
So assuming you know something the scientist dont, i would contact your government pronto, you will be significantly rewarded for stopping them wasting money getting plastic out the water.
BTW also look up safe limits for organo phosphates as well as pcb's, which are just three of 15 significantly dangerous non degrading chems leaching out that plastic and getting into the food chain. look at the average level contained in any random sample of fish, then decide how significant it is, because your answers prove you dont actually have a clue about the problem. With all due respect.....
I deleted two of your posts and two of tcmtechs posts.Without knowing what else was deleted
Why would we do that?I deleted two of your posts and two of tcmtechs posts.
It looked like a childish petty squabble to me, so I deleted them.
If you want to ask the other moderators opinion, please do so.
JimB
Why is it squabbling to point out that a person that is presented as an environmental expert, Scott Adams, is in reality a cartoonist, that has no environmental training or standing? .
All of which is to say that I believe that LG's concerns (humans are making a real mess of the environment) and TCM's solution (quit polluting) are equally legitimate.
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