Cheap PCB's from JLC PCB, including cheap postage.

Nigel Goodwin

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There's often been mention of the price of PCB's from the Chinese manufacturers, in this case JLC PCB.

Now while the boards are cheap (and excellent quality), the cost of getting them from China isn't

I order quite a lot of boards from work, and I've recently used the last of the hundred boards I last ordered for one of our products, so took the opportunity to change the board slightly - as such, I only ordered 5 boards to test, rather than 100 to find out I've messed up, and the boards are useless.

The boards are well under their 100mm x 100mm special offer price of $2, so it seemed a shame to pay $20+ to get them delivered.

Normally we pay for DHL delivery, because we like them to arrive quickly (usually a week from order, or even 5/6 days), but in this case there's no rush, as we're already waiting for other parts, and we've got a stock of 'mostly' built units waiting for those parts. So I went for the cheapest delivery offered - although this only seems available on low cost, or perhaps low weight?, orders.

So this is the actual cost, cut and pasted from the invoice at JLC PCB.


So, £3.36 for 5 boards delivered from China, including UK VAT paid (20%), you can't really grumble at that

I placed the order on 8th November, and according to the tracking they are in the UK, have cleared customs, and are in the hands of the local carrier, I imagine they will arrive tomorrow, or even this afternoon.

For a comparison, the 100 similar boards I ordered previously cost this:


To be fair, that works out at £1.13 per board, compared to £0.67 per board for the 5 on the special offer with slow postage. It is annoying though when the postage is more than the goods
 
Hi Nigel,

Well, what I usually like to do is design the traces using a drawing tool, not really a PCB tool, which leads me to have an image file of the copper clad. That's all it is though, an image file.

What I would like to do is order boards with this, but if I have to convert to 'Gerber' files can I do that somehow manually, or is there some program that can read my image file and convert it into Gerber files?

I have not used "Gerber" files yet because back when I did any of this kind of design we used that black tape and clear sheets to make the trace patterns. That was some 40 or more years ago. Since then all I have done is make by own hand draw boards using something like a sharpie, and etching them at home.

The boards I would make would be fairly simple, maybe 3 inches by 4 inches (about 75mm by 100mm).
 

That's interesting, and I'd like to order some boards myself, but I need a way to convert my image files (like .bmp or .png) into Gerber files, apparently. Any ideas?
 
That's interesting, and I'd like to order some boards myself, but I need a way to convert my image files (like .bmp or .png) into Gerber files, apparently. Any ideas?

Use a PCB program and create the gerber files directly, as I said before JLC PCB have a free version, either on-line or off-line, it's a LOT easier than physically drawing them in the first place. Download a program, or go on-line, and have a go.

As I also mentioned, I use DesignSpark PCB, free edition, so I never tried the JLC offering, but many here use it.
 
EasyEDA standard version from JLCPCB is indeed easy to use, with a short learning curve. The component/footprint library is huge and probably has almost any component you can imagine.

BUT.... while it's possible to lay out a pcb directly, it's geared towards marking a schematic first, defining the components, footprints and connections, then transferring that information to the pcb to lay it out. It's easy to use if you follow the flow – if you bring a mindset of "this is how I demand it work", it won't be so easy.
 
Trump the Great Deflector and Saviour of some fears like rejecting the immigrants who can take minimum wage jobs not union ones and will create rising costs to middle-class with discretionary spending and lower the taxes for those in his bracket. What a great plan!

I used to get the best deals for 8-layer FR4 or 2 oz Kapton RF boards with a turnaround from quality shops like Sierra Express in SJ and Tektronix in Beaverton while the boys would do simple boards etched in-house with photo film and UV etch, rinse and tin plate. A 48h 10-board turn deal would be around $2k-$3k in the early '90's But then a PC cost just about that. I got the gerbers out by modem in a few minutes after the quote was received and approved. Then I figured out the volume cost was mainly the weight of copper unless complicated with Blind or BV's.
 
Nobody asks, if cost is added to the supply chain, how will prices remain the same?
In my job, I say, " for a $0.03 part I can add a feature." and accounting informs me that they have a 10x market up on everything. My 0.03 part costs 0.30 to the end price.
I am thinking that a $10 board costs the consumer $100. If we add $6 terrif to the board, we will have a $160 product. Trump's government will have the $60 to build walls.
I have a terrible problem with China making the same thing and putting it on the market. My $10 (or $16) board, they make for $8. They have a 3x markup and it hits the market for $24.00.
 
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