Inquisitive
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Thanks, that put a smile on my face and made my morning cup of java.
Here ends the sermon, we will now sing hymn number .. .. .. ..
S
● Does he ask the same, tired questions others ask?
● Does he clearly lack the ability or inclination to ask the almighty Google?
● Does he refuse to take the time to ask coherent, specific questions?
● Does he think helping him must be the high point of your day?
● Is he obviously just waiting for some poor, well-intentioned person to do all his thinking for him?
● Can you tell he really isn't interested in having his question answered, so much as getting someone else to do his work?
I dunno 'bout him. According to the document JonSea linked,● Is his name Ritesh?
One would fervently wish RK would give up; but alas, he keeps coming back again and again and again, and yet again, each time under a new username.Help Vampires are virtual bedouins. They move into a community—as soon as they sense its vibrancy and intelligence. Often they leave ("give up," in their eyes) when they have exhausted all the resources, leaving the community itself drained and adrift.
I am in agreement with Ratch on this.
It really grips my bits to think that I am putting in some effort to find an answer for someone who is away elsewhere asking the same question, and in all probability will not come back to read my answer.
To me it has the same feel as if someone asks a question face to face, and then pulls out their phone and start asking the same question of someone else while I am trying to answer their question.
By all means, if a topic has been exhausted in one forum and the OP has not found an appropriate solution, then start a discussion in another forum.
JimB
I am undecided on this question, i see both sides, but on the whole i fall more inline with pommie and Matt, no one is forced to answer, we answer because we want to. We should not dictate who a OP can and cannot ask an opinion from.I'd like to add another perspective to this debate .. .. ..
In any scenario, I would be the OP not the expert offering advice; I am a complete novice and it's unlikely that I will ever be much more than that. I've been a member of ETO since 2014 and the only other forum in which I participate is related to CNC machining, not electronics.
However, on that basis, I rarely post any question in open forum for several reasons, the main problem being that if I get 5 answers from experts, they are often 5 differing opinions and I end up non the wiser. Then to make it worse, often 2 or 3 members will have an open argument between themselves as to who is right and if they eventually reach an agreement it is often at right angles to my original question and therefore, of even less use.
For example, not long after I started my electronics hobby, I built a very small bench PSU comprising a transformer, a bridge rectifier, smoothing caps, and a set of voltage regulators to give -/+ 5v and -/+ 12v. The transformer was quite small so the whole thing was limited to about 7 or 800 mA. Not terribly useful, but a successful project for me !
I then bought a Chinese PSU kit, supposedly capable of 0 - 30v at 10amps which I successfully built and since the earlier small PSU was fitted in a large metal enclosure, because it was all I had at the time, I elected to fit the Chinese kit in the same box with a degree of separation between the two PSU's.
I made a mistake of celebrating my success on the forum with a photograph and immediately got heavily criticised for using voltage regulators with the Chinese variable PSU kit and there then followed several days of debate between 'experts' about whether or not they should be used in such a circuit. Adjectives such as rubbish, complete rebuild, useless etc were prolific and my mentioning that the two circuits were in no way related did nothing to quell the voracity of the debate.
I read and follow ETO several times every day and I have seen this scenario happen with OP's time and time again and for that reason I remain reluctant to post any question in open forum. I can hear the loud shout of ' That's your choice, why don't you sod off then ?' and that is right, just as is my choice not to do so .. .. .. I accept that I contribute very little to the forum.
Which brings me to my other point .. .. At the outset, I was always very surprised and impressed by the generosity of 'expert' members who freely offered the benefit of their expertise and advice because it was often way beyond the limited effort I'd expected. If an OP is a serious contender as a novice EE, they will quickly recognise where that generosity is coming from and become a regular attendee.
There will always be the others, the OP's who are irritating somebody or some other members from time to time and are an unfortunate by-product of the nature of the beast. I don't suppose they ever stop to consider that there is a person on the other end of a forum question who is giving time & effort to formulate a reply .. I think that's the faceless image of the internet and it will never stop, indeed I think it will grow as a problem.
Here ends the sermon, we will now sing hymn number .. .. .. ..
S
You drink code?? Man thats dedicationand made my morning cup of java.
Oh i CHe can't handle Smalltalk in the morning without it!
Looks like RUBY finally went off he RAILLS! FORTONly for us there is hope he might go back to BASIC postingSo many puns.
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Why should not dictate who a OP can and cannot ask an opinion from.
Your last comment naming a member as being part of the nature of the beast i consider unfair
The person you mention is entitled to an opinion and he if feel strongly i personally see no reason why that strength of feeling should not be put across. My views are different from the member but i would not make a snide well hidden attack on him, especially as it seems that is the only time you really post.
That is how i read it and why i reported and asked a moderator to look, had it read differently to them i am sure they would have left it.Is that what I said ??
Of course he is entitled to an opinion, and to express it in any way he sees fit .. .. .. ..unlike this member .. … .
.. .. .. .. but i would not make a snide well hidden attack on him .. .. neither did I ?
I have apologised personally to the 'member of no name' for any misinterpretation of my comments.
I've never heard of Emily Post. And I'm sure 95% of other people haven't either.
I'm another one for the list who has never heard of Emily Post.I retract this statement.
How and more importantly, WHY do you know this stuff!! I wasnt brave enough to add my name to the list, but yes i didnt have a clue who she was. i certainly didnt know she was a member hereFrom Wikipedia:
Post wrote in various styles, including humorous travel books, early in her career. She published her first etiquette book Etiquette in Society, in Business, in Politics, and at Home (1922, frequently referenced as Etiquette) when she was 50; it became a best-seller, with updated versions continued to be popular for decades, and it made her career. After 1931, Post spoke on radio programs and wrote a column on good taste for the Bell Syndicate; it appeared daily in some 200 newspapers after 1932.
In her review of Claridge's 2008 biography of Post, The New York Times' Dinitia Smith explains the keys to Post's popularity:
Such books had always been popular in America: the country’s exotic mix of immigrants and newly rich were eager to fit in with the establishment. Men had to be taught not to blow their noses into their hands or to spit tobacco onto ladies’ backs. Arthur M. Schlesinger, who wrote “Learning How to Behave: A Historical Study of American Etiquette Books” in 1946, said that etiquette books were part of “the leveling-up process of democracy,” an attempt to resolve the conflict between the democratic ideal and the reality of class. But Post’s etiquette books went far beyond those of her predecessors. They read like short-story collections with recurring characters, the Toploftys, the Eminents, the Richan Vulgars, the Gildings and the Kindharts.
Am I missing something here??i certainly didnt know she was a member here
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