To add my part, JBL charge 4 ... see, i am not impressed with JBL extreme 2, not even a little. But JBL charge 4 ... i cant tell you how amazed i am at this speaker, loud, good bass and tiny size. What i dont understand is ... as far as i understand, passive radiators, much like port, the enclosure size still matters, meaning bigger enclosure, better bass. And when you open the JBL charge 4 ... you can see that it basicaly has no free air inside, its all either plastic or electronic parts. It probably has free air the size of small coffe cup inside. So how the hell do they get such bass from it ? Yes, i know, special speaker made for this enclosure and special tuned passive radiators, obviously, i am perfectly aware of that. But there is still physics and so far what i read, no enclosure space, no bass. How do they do it ??