Inverting Op Amp

audioguru · Dec 4, 2019

The 3rd opamp inverts and the input is positive then the output is trying to go negative, but it cannot go negative without a negative supply, so the output goes as low as it can which is 0V.

Didn't your professor teach you anything about this old circuit?

ChrisP58 · Dec 5, 2019

As AG said in post #21, the 3rd opamp is wired to invert the signal.

But the fix is easy. Swap the wires from the first two opamps and the input to the third.
- U1 should feed the non-inverting input of U3 through R7.
- U2 should feed the inverting input through R6.

Why do you have such a large resistance for R10? It's 3.3 Meg resistance into C1, will make a delay between an input change and the output voltage change. The delay will be significantly longer than the 100uS in your notes. It may also add a large measurement error in whatever is monitoring V_out.

gophert · Dec 5, 2019

Tykulcsar666 said:
I've tried replacing 741's with ADA4505 and tying negative supply to ground. Output voltage seems to be 0.

You'll need to only use 0V for the negative power pin. All "ground" connections should be connected to a virtual ground that is half-voltage of your power supply.

Tykulcsar666 · Dec 6, 2019

ChrisP58 said:
As AG said in post #21, the 3rd opamp is wired to invert the signal.

But the fix is easy. Swap the wires from the first two opamps and the input to the third.
- U1 should feed the non-inverting input of U3 through R7.
- U2 should feed the inverting input through R6.

Why do you have such a large resistance for R10? It's 3.3 Meg resistance into C1, will make a delay between an input change and the output voltage change. The delay will be significantly longer than the 100uS in your notes. It may also add a large measurement error in whatever is monitoring V_out.

Believe it is a low pass filter for .5 Hz

Cyril Mechkov · Dec 16, 2019

ChrisP58 said:
As AG said in post #21, the 3rd opamp is wired to invert the signal.

But the fix is easy. Swap the wires from the first two opamps and the input to the third.
- U1 should feed the non-inverting input of U3 through R7.
- U2 should feed the inverting input through R6.

So you rely on the fact the U3 non-inverting input voltage is always higher than the inverting voltage? But still а dual supply would be preferable because (for some reason?) the bridge is powered only by 1/7 of the supply voltage... and the input voltages of the op-amp followers would be too close to the negative rail.

ChrisP58 said:
Why do you have such a large resistance for R10? It's 3.3 Meg resistance into C1, will make a delay between an input change and the output voltage change. The delay will be significantly longer than the 100uS in your notes. It may also add a large measurement error in whatever is monitoring V_out.

Maybe C1 can be connected in parallel to R8? Then the U3 output impedance will remain low.

BTW the resistances R6-R9 are too high for the 741 big input currents.

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