Super_voip said:Try something like a Linksys SPA3102 for the voip problem, and if your mobile is 3G or better why not use a web based micro to handle the other inputs, this solution could also allow the micro to send emails when problems arise.
arhi said:MagicJack is a cheep usb sound card that allows you to attach ordinary phone to a computer, the whole service is software based....
crashsite said:Skype can bring it together, for example, but keeps charging more and more money
There are some "unnamed" devices that can be purchased in local computer shops that put skype and pstn together ..crashsite said:(Skypeout and Skypein) and D-Link makes an adapter to allow sharing a PSTN telephone set with Skype. But, it doesn't bring it all together at one price, in one package.
The link I posted host bunch of cheep ata boxes, some of them have port for PSTN too, some do not, anyhow, you do not have to get Planet device (quite cheep with ok quality), there is bunch of manufacturers of cheep ata boxes... I personally use (40E in local store):crashsite said:I checked out the device in your link and, it doesn't bring it all together either. It addresses attaching a phone or phone system to some voip service but, doesn't deal with the service itself (as MagicJack does).
ATCOM AG-188 VoIP SIP / IAX2 ATA Gateway 1 x FXS (RJ-11), 1 x PSTN, 1xLAN 10/100, 1xWAN 10/100 - Infineon Chipset, SIP, Asterisk AIX2 protocol
Attaching the PSTN with the VoIP requires bit more hw then just a cheep usb sound card and some tweaked sw sip implementation so I do not personally think that will happen.. anyhow MagicJack site is down, but AFAIK they also have SIP gateway, so using any hardware (like the one I have just described) you can connect to any SIP gateway (inclooding MagicJack one)crashsite said:I'm assuming that, at some point, the MagicJack people will "discover" that people don't want to deal with multiple phone systems in their homes and will come up with a "Super MagicJack" that will allow a single phone to connect to either their voip service or their local PSTN line...essentially implementing the capability I was trying to describe in my initial post.
arhi said:There are some "unnamed" devices that can be purchased in local computer shops that put skype and pstn together ..
Yup. But that do not helps you at all as most of the stores here have deal's with local voip providers so you get everything in one place. In general these boxes are hw solution for VoIP, the service you need to get elsewhere.crashsite said:Are any of the boxes that you are using a single-point solution. In other words, did you buy the box and it came with everything needed to assign your a "real" phone number and give you the connection via your computer? Do any of the products you listed give you the device and free US and Canada calling for a year for $47 (the box, a year of service and shipping)?
Ah, nope .. I work as MySQL Cluster consultant ... nothing to do with hardware and especially nothing to do with store, sales etccrashsite said:You mention working at a store so, you likely have voip access that I would not have if I just buy the hardware and suddenly find myself with a box that does nothing until I go out and set up the service with some third party vendor.
If you find how to connect to MagicJack system using hw sip box (just call their tech support and ask) then the devices I described will. For example let's look at:crashsite said:But, since I have the MagicJack (and associated number and service), I can use it just fine...with a dual telephone setup...which is what I'm doing. I'm not getting a sense that the boxes you are describing will resolve the basic dual phone issue.
Yup, Skype is getting more and more expensive on the both sides (dial in and dial out), but that's a story for different forumcrashsite said:I do have the D-Link box, used with Skype, that does allow a single phone to be shared between Skype and PSTN but, it doesn't resolve the costs associated with Skype.
Check out the explanation I put there for the grandstream device .. It does just that .. you connect one phone, it will ring when any of the lines (voip or pstn) ring, it will call trough prefered line ...crashsite said:I guess what I'm envisioning is a box that does not care what the phone system is so long as it can dial out and receive calls. Something that would work as well with multiple PSTN lines as readily as with voip and PSTN lines.
Maybe I'm overthinking this. Perhaps the answer is something as simple as a two-line telephone. Unfortunately, the inexpensive cordless phones are single line sets.
arhi said:Now this all works only if MagicJack will allow hw sip box to connect to their gateway! I do not see reason why would they forbid/block this as I do not know a single provider (except skype, but they are working on it too, it might be already working) that disallow that...
arhi said:I think you misunderstood the device completely. With device like the cited one you do not need computer at all.
might be that I misunderstood you (sorry, English is far from being my first language).. anyhow, the device that would do dtmf decode etc, would have to use your magicJack device (that requires computer)... the device I shown would replace magicJack+computer combo ..crashsite said:Hmmmm...I'm not sure where I gave the impression that I thought that device needed a computer. All it would need is a DTMF decoder and a way to either generate or pass through the "telephone" functions...and, of course the phone line switching.
Super_voip said:BTW I don't think too many candlestick phones came with the DTMF option.
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