Then one day a knock on the door, the EPA want to see how you disposed of the toxic waste you made.... suddenly the ex wife bank account looks better than yours and you are sleeping on her sofa. Thats real life, same as people getting paid to put right others mess because they think the rules have an exclusion for them.I'm here for opinions on options and if I see no merit in a an opinion then I have no need to follow it if I think what I already have is better. That's how life works when you're the one doing the actual work.
Now if gophorts claim that Ethylene Glycol can be had for ~ $4 a gallon (without major hurdles) that changes my views considerably.
Whats he normal anti corrosion additive over there? In the UK we dont have much ETOH in fuel, we also tend to use different seal material. Not sure what the current one is but it stinks when you extract it.Normally, (rule of thumb) is that a pallet of drums is about double the price per pound vs bulk quantities (a 44000 lb tank truck).
You can get a pallet of drums (4 x 55 gallons) at $7.36/gallon on eBay.
Note the pricing model (very common in the chemical industry ) is that the first drum covers all the one-time order costs and additional drums are dirt cheap. This supplier charges $1395.00 for the first drum and $75 for each additional drum to fill the pallet...
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https://vi.raptor.ebaydesc.com/ws/e...tegory=104233&pm=1&ds=0&t=1504754386000&ver=0
You can get a pallet of drums (4 x 55 gallons) at $7.36/gallon on eBay.
Whats he normal anti corrosion additive over there? In the UK we dont have much ETOH in fuel, we also tend to use different seal material. Not sure what the current one is but it stinks when you extract it.
That route works fine for premade automotive and light commercial stuff but for boilers that don't need most of the additives either and 100 - 200+ gallons at a time that's a rather spendy ticket to pay for.
Then one day a knock on the door, the EPA want to see how you disposed of the toxic waste you made.... suddenly the ex wife bank account looks better than yours and you are sleeping on her sofa. Thats real life, same as people getting paid to put right others mess because they think the rules have an exclusion for them.
Thats real life, same as people getting paid to put right others mess because they think the rules have an exclusion for them.
The chemicals used in boilers to prevent corrosion, scale build-up and bio-fouling make up a significant subcategory of the chemical industry - known as "water treatment chemicals". It sounds like you haven't run your boilers very long or hard If you think additives are not important.
My mum just had new radiators put in on the Scotland keep warm scheme, she got lucky and the grant covered the cost. 5 years ago when we moved in the system had been drained and flushed, left dry for 18months.The chemicals used in boilers to prevent corrosion, scale build-up and bio-fouling make up a significant subcategory of the chemical industry - known as "water treatment chemicals". It sounds like you haven't run your boilers very long or hard If you think additives are not important.
If you want a honest answer to that i will give it then you go put me on ignore ok, its big business because your always going to get selfish people. Its large because the world is full of people that think environmental issues are not there problem and they deserve different rules.Why do you think that bypassing emissions systems on vehicles and heavy equipment is now a approaching being a multi billion dollar a year industry? Do you think it's because all those people that the environment or more likely because dont like getting screwed over on BS regulations that make everything worse on every functional level that were made by people who have proven they have very poor understanding of the rational realistic science behind their wants and agendas?
but I did see comments about fracking not causing any damage.
The state of North Dakota has experienced a huge number of oil spills, leaving much of the state contaminated. Oil tankcar fires have become commonplace.
In the state of Oklahoma, not historically known for earthquakes, there are now hundreds of quakes a year. They stated just after fracking began. A coincidence? I think not.
The Dakota Access Pipeline, built over sacred Indian lands in South Dakota over their protests,
We are not being good stewards of the environment. Too many people can't see this damage; can't see the mess we are leaving to future generations.
those old radial tires have millions of BTU"s just waiting to be put to good use...like warming up your house.Just finished my 17th year of running off of home built hot water heating.
First boiler was made of 10 ga sheet and lasted 15 years running nothing but straight well water and abusive amounts of burning anything that would hold a flame before the bottom started seeping.
I call that successful enough for an experimental design I didn't expect to make 3 - 4 years.
You did exactly what i said you would, you picked a few cases that showed your view your way. Its called denial, so one guy lies about the problems and because you want all environmental scientists burnt at the stake with as much oil as you can muster, you then label all scientist in that field as wrong or liars.
Its like Mr T's fake news, if you dont like the story call the book fake. Chops and butchers? Strawman argument and purely used to plump up a post with no evidence. Yes nice pics of bad things, things have got better but you didnt read the bit where i noted that things are changing because those that except we have a problem is growing.
Try and find a paper from a non oil company paid source, in any of the top 100 journals, that backs fracking as environmentally friendly. Does that make me anti oil?
those old radial tires have millions of BTU"s just waiting to be put to good use...like warming up your house.
When did I do that? I felt no need to carpet bomb this subject with every possible vettable piece of supporting evidence there is given hitting a few primary ones was enough.
Al gores movies are bad science and everyone knows it, Same with the precious all defined hockey stick graph that blew up in the end and was shown to be bad science as well. Same with the now in progress climate trial that's starting out on a very bad note for the believers side,
and a gain with the irrefutable proof of just how far those who went before you and me have came on tackling the real and extremely bad environmental disasters of the past.
Fact is the the once ever irrefutable hockey stick graph and its creator got caught in a fib same and way too many others on the believers side have now.
Add 97% of scientist agree claim form james cook to the list of busted claims proven to be lies too.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/alexepstein/2015/01/06/97-of-climate-scientists-agree-is-100-wrong/2/#
Of some 12,000 supposedly reviewed papers the reality was that less than 100 had anything to say for or against AGW and ~41 had any claims whatsoever claiming its legitimate. ~.03% agree seems a tiny bit off form 97%, don't you think?
That's just one more example of the problem and why so many like myself are skeptical and the numbers of us are growing not shrinking because of it.
The reality is, we are doing nothing by being the ones who are putting the much needed active and as unbiased as possible efforts into looking at all data and info from all sides and sciences and vetting the legitimacy of said data and info and who created and confirmed it, so we can find and who provided it yet get still called deniers by those who deny there is a whole second side with a ton of relevant unbiased fact based data on a multitude of other related Earth and solar science fronts to the problem.
So, if people like me willingly putting an active effort into making sure the claims of your side actually add up (since too of then they have been proven not too and for the most shamefully embarrassing of reasons) makes me the terrible person who has no interests in our planet's existence and how we fit into and affect it at any level, so be it. That seems like some pretty deep level BS based to say that's what we are and where we stand in the denial soup mix.
BTW, where's your supporting links to refute any of mine I have given so far? If you are in fact right then disproving that al gores videos are not AGW agendist propaganda films,
and that manns hockey stick data did not get wrecked in legal courts for being bad and very fake agenda driven science,
or that none of the high level ecological cleanup work done before you ever existed is real.
or that cook didn't get caught cooking his - 97% of scientists agree- claims.
It shouldn't be hard to factually refute my views if you really truly do know your sides stuff as well as you hold onto it. (unless you're just flat-earth sciencing here. )
If your really truly into environmental protection then you have to be all the wayin it and know both sides views and reasonings otherwise you're either just a blind faith follower of a very dangerous cult religion or in it for the possibility of how much money you yourself can scam off gullible blind faith beliviers who support those agendas as well.
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