Has the Isotera system already been officially approved as compliant with those standards?
I can assure you this will not happen. Its perfectly safe. In fact, even if you stripped the bus insulation and touched the bare wire, the 50KHz electricity sees the human body as a high impedance so, you'll be ok.....i"Soter"A.....Soter is the Greek God of Safety. "i" and "A" mean current...so its "safe current".I'm not "Microwaved" while reading my favorite novel
you've obviously never heard of interior designers either
alec_t said:Has the Isotera system already been officially approved as compliant with those standards?
I can assure you this will not happen. Its perfectly safe. In fact, even if you stripped the bus insulation and touched the bare wire, the 50KHz electricity sees the human body as a high impedance so, you'll be ok.....i"Soter"A.....Soter is the Greek God of Safety. "i" and "A" mean current...so its "safe current".
The isotera system is very much safer than any mains-to-the-luminaire lighting system.-safety come down to official approval, which "this system" does not have. Admitted by the OP.
...this is the old way of doing lighting, since the 1960's...i.e., just throw up a trougher every 2 yards and bathe every square yard of room space in loads of light.most applications work best with consistent and even lighting all over the floor space
The [branding deleted] system is [theoretically/allegedly] very much safer than any mains-to-the-luminaire lighting system.
The [branding deleted] system is [theoretically/allegedly] the simplest to utilise of the safe lighting systems.
The [branding deleted] system is [theoretically/allegedly] highly desirable in any system where hot plugging is necessary and resultant contact sparks are a danger...this is because the [branding deleted] system is [theoretically/allegedly] available in absolutely contact-spark-free mode.....clipping and unclipping the coupler [theoretically/allegedly] causes absolutely no contact sparks.
Well, "the Old way of doing things" is not synonymous with "the wrong way of doing things". I saw a guy on YouTube put all his clothes on in a just few seconds doing only frontflips. Should I stop putting my pants on one leg at a time now that I know this? Do you think this man doesn't ever put his pants on one leg at a time? Of course not, niche applications...this is the old way of doing lighting, since the 1960's...i.e. just throw up a trougher every 2 yards and bathe every square yard of room space in loads of light.
Objection!, Hearsay. I see absolutely no provable basis for this claim, and as such the defendant should not be putting words in the mouths of whoever "we" happens to be.Nowadays we believe this is wasteful of energy, and instead we strive to put small (often downlights) just where they are needed.
Arranging any space (the act itself) will require full room lighting. It would be awkward and potentially dangerous to do so with lighting that only lit select parts of the room, even if they were relocatable. On top of that, lighting the entire space automatically allows any configuration possible by it's very nature without needing to plan it out. Finally, the person/people that have to come up with an efficient custom lighting configuration are going to charge money just the same as any electrician does.However, we often find that we re-arrange the room such that we need to move the minimalistic downlighting, and this is where HFAC lighting comes into it
More conventional systems than the system in question can achieve this. A system I mentioned before, one where the lights simply had just enough extra cord slack to be moved to any arbitrary point on the ceiling, would serve the very same purpose but use very standard equipment and lighting. This completely invalidates any arguments about the convenience and ease of the "whats-it-called" coupler relocation. A simpler and more conventional system doesn't require you to move anything but the lights. Hell, a careful crew probably wouldn't even have to power them off this way.[the system in question] allows anyone, no matter how technically inept, to move the lights to anywhere else, and no electrician bills need to be payed.
This would clearly require exposing electrical conductors carrying potentially lethal energies, and as such this would be in the same category as any other electrical work, even if you make claims that it is somehow safer. Everything else is no different than any other electrical system either.The ibus is flexible and moveable, and if you wish, you can get an extra degree of movement freedom by adjusting the length of the wire from the icoupler to the lamp....or alternatively you can put up with fixed 1.5 metre lengths of that wire and utilise the 3 metre diameter circle of space where you can put the lamp that is served by that icoupler and its connection wire.
The decisions of select companies says nothing for or against any particular technology and has no meaning to this conversation.HFAC lighting companies are getting interest from big companies where purchasing staff have hired electricians at great expense to do small jobs, -these electricians often being relatives of these purchasing staff, who have not questioned overly high bills.
This depends entirely on the circumstances. Often enough simply moving the physical lights is the hardest and most costly part. Shelf stockers or custodians are not necessarily going to be allowed to even touch such things, dangerous electronics notwithstanding.Moving luminaires is not terribly difficult. It certainly needn't be.
...Alleged by you.The HFAC lighting company I speak of is currently installing in several major national venues. These will be in the news soon.
Pure speculation. The hypothetical business practices of select companies says nothing for or against any particular technology and has no meaning in this conversation.Perhaps installation electricians like to make luminaires difficult to move so that you the customer have to come back to them in order to move the luminaires?...and pay them handsomely for their services.
...Potentially, and only theoretically.In an [branding deleted] system, at the installation stage it can be assured that the luminaires are easy to move.
...Also alleged by you.The lamps have been installed very sucesfully in several agriculture venues so far, and other confidential places.
....the icoupler will not give out voltages greater than 60V peak, and that is below the hazard level. Also, that 60V peak is obviously isolated from the mains in the power hub.This would clearly require exposing electrical conductors carrying potentially lethal energies, and as such this would be in the same category as any other electrical work
Considering the expected watts, that's probably BS... and irrelevant. In the eyes of the employers and their insurers electricity is electricity at any voltage and will require a certified tech. And isolation means nothing when you have to cut both the wires anyway.....the icoupler will not give out voltages greater than 60V peak, and that is below the hazard level. Also, that 60V peak is obviously isolated from the mains in the power hub.
There's good reason for that. In this litigious age any employee tripping over or bumping into something in a poorly lit area is likely to sue the employer....and bathe every square yard of room space in loads of light.
..it can be either, conduit or draped over surface. Regarding fire protection ,there is an emergency light available for it.When installed would the twisted pair cable be fire-protected by conduit? How would it be supported? Would it just be draped across a ceiling or floor?
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