I thought this too but on the 8 pin pics they don't have a PGM pin.I'm not 100% sure OP understands LVP ... all pic's do LVP , just getting into program mode requires either the PGM pin high ( depends on device ) , or at least 12v on the Vpp pin after a reset. the 883 has a PGM pin and a config setting just to confuse !
Mike.